[ SECRET POST #3438 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3438 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're reading too far into it. The idea of the insult is that if something so relatively minor makes someone massively sad, everything else must be much worse. In the same vein as "if 'food' triggers you, how do you live? Avoiding 'food' everywhere must be exhausting."

It's not a nice thing to say, but to conflate it with mental issues is inaccurate to both text and intent.

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I get that. And your comment actually is an example of what I'm talking about. If I say I dislike something, that doesn't mean it makes me "massively sad" or "triggers" me. It just means I dislike it. Simply experiencing dislike does not exhaust me, make me miserable, or drive me crazy. I don't have to avoid feeling anything negative at all in order to not be miserable, "massively sad," triggered, or whatever.

It's also assuming that if I dislike something relatively minor, everything else must be much worse. Which is exactly what you said, but it's not true. It's not like there's a scale of things people can dislike, and if you dislike something fairly low on the scale, you must dislike all the thing that are higher up even more. That's... just not how it works. Different people like and dislike different things.

The reason I'm linking it to mental issues is that some mental issues (depression and anxiety) do make me unhappy often. That has nothing to do with my personal likes and dislikes. But since people use "you're unhappy" as an insult or a way to dismiss people's opinions, I feel like having those issues makes my opinions invalid and makes me less of an okay person. Because after all, you insult people by saying they're like me and you attempt to invalidate people's opinions by saying the person who has the opinion feels like I often do.

Of course, the way I feel is due to depression, not my personal opinions. But I suspect that someone who wanted to make me seem crazy for holding certain opinions would try to conflate the two to make it LOOK like my opinions are what is making me unhappy and, therefore, "prove" that my opinions are wrong (or, at least bad for me so I should change them).

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

You're reading too far into it and attaching depression where there isn't depression. Someone accusing you of something doesn't make it true and it doesn't make it about mental issues.

It may mean that to you but that's not what the majority is reading from it.

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

I realize that the comments I'm talking about are not about depression.

I don't think you really understood what I wrote. It looks like you think I'm saying the comments are making fun of people with depression? I'm not saying that.

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

"It also makes it seem like a person is either CONSTANTLY HAPPY or CONSTANTLY MISERABLE, because if you express unhappiness about anything, someone claims you're "constantly" offended/angry/unhappy. Like, what happened to experiencing a normal range of emotions??? Now you must be happy all the time, even one slip-up where you express even mild dislike of something and you have fallen into a rabbit hole of CONSTANT MISERY. But I guess the way they see it, if you weren't consumed with despair, you'd have just kept your mouth shut. You don't talk about negative things unless you're so upset that you lose all control and... express an opinion."

This is where you read way too far. If some idiot is calling someone a faggot, they don't literally mean homosexual man. If some idiot calls something retarded, they don't literally mean it is a mentally disabled person. The thing you described in the paragraph I am quoting from you above is like insisting people literally mean homosexual when they casually call something gay as an insult. They don't. It's not nice of them to do but to read instances of someone saying "man that test was gay" and say "I guess the way they see it, the test is homosexual" is... just wrong.

Re: Mental health and happiness

[(Anonymous)]

"If some idiot is calling someone a faggot, they don't literally mean homosexual man."

But they are conflating "homosexual" with "bad" by using the term as an insult, which is exactly what AYRT was talking about in their original post.

The part you quoted is specifically about a derailing tactic people use.
One that runs basically along the lines of "Oh you're upset, but you're always upset, so the things that bug you must be minor, so I don't have to listen to what it is that's bugging you this time." every time someone so much as expresses a negative opinion.

Speaking of which, your post is also a derailing tactic. You don't have a counter to the points raised, so you're trying to change the subject to how it was raised so you don't have to address the actual issues.