[ SECRET POST #3439 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3439 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[lupin sansei/lupin the third]


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[Pokemon]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Animorphs]


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[Dark Tower]


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08. [SPOILERS for Shin Megami Tensei IV]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]


[Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes, "The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist"]


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10. [WARNING for discussion of rape]























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Comments

[fscom]

09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

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[Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes, "The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist"]

[quantumreality]

Some of Doyle's work wasn't that good TBH (even he apparently didn't feel it was up to his usual standard). But even given that, by the standards of his time he wrote a pretty creepy story. I mean, someone who manages to abduct a woman and takes advantage of the laws of the land to try and force a marriage to her? Yeah, creeptastic.

(ugh I cannot spell today)

[crossy_woad]

IDK. I don't think fearing rape is so weird. It's a scary thing. It's scarier than spiders, the dark, and frankly, in some people's opinion, death.

Everybody dies. Rape is not something everyone has to deal with, nor should anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, who said fearing rape was weird?

[crossy_woad]

Acting like it's really cringe-worthy to say "a fate worse than death" always strikes me as weird. For some people, maybe it is. I understand that some people see that as erasing victims who go on to survive and live happy lives, but IDK, it just doesn't feel weird to me to refer to it as that. Maybe that's internalized whatever, but...

[(Anonymous)]

So... nobody said it was weird, but the secret implies it's cringeworthy? Sorry, going to have to agree with the secret. It makes more sense for the context of the time period, but I personally cringe at the implication that it's better for a woman to die than to survive a sexual assault.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, but referring to rape as "a fate worse than death" is really cringe-worthy to me. IMO, it always reads as implying that the victim is somehow now tainted, hence it would have been better for them to have died than to live on in a damaged state. Obviously, this is NOT my opinion, but I think that's the historical context, and so I do cringe when I hear it.

[crossy_woad]

i suppose that makes sense. looking at it from the point of view of a person, i'm not very afraid of dying; i find other things lots more scary. i don't see victims as in any way at fault or tainted, but i guess some people do, which is fucked up. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, that's how I hear it, too. Frankly the idea that a woman's virginity and sexual purity is more valuable than her life will never NOT be cringeworthy, even in a historical context.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean it was the early 1900s..

[(Anonymous)]

... and modern audiences can still look askance at things that were normal for earlier time periods.

[illiadandoddity]

I actually recently read this one and I sort of felt like it was, well, pretty progressive for the time?

Like, there is absolutely no doubt that we're supposed to see the men who were plotting to force Violet to marry one of them as bad people. Even the man who had a change of heart because he genuinely fell for Violet was punished for his part in the plot.

I get the impression from a lot of the short stories that ACD really hated the idea of a woman "belonging" to a man just because he had feelings for her. By modern standards it can get pretty cringey, but for the time it was written it was pretty forward-thinking.

[arcadiaego]

I don't like that sort of phrase either, but he may have used it simply as a well known euphemism, not because he personally thought it was literally true.