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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-03 06:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #3439 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3439 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[lupin sansei/lupin the third]


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[Pokemon]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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[Animorphs]


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[Dark Tower]


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08. [SPOILERS for Shin Megami Tensei IV]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]


[Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes, "The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist"]


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10. [WARNING for discussion of rape]























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(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't agree.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's okay to be wrong.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
... your comment makes no sense.

It's the difference between "I find movies where people are killed fascinating" and "I think it should be ok to kill people."

Like...?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

But plenty of movies show vigilante killer heroes as the badass good guys.

And am I going to find a movie or song that sings the praises and glories and wonder of serial killing and murder very very weird? Yeah. But sometimes that's the point.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Adding death to a story is the easiest way to raise the stakes and the hero is usually defending themselves or has some other motive that's easy to relate to, they don't do it to get off on it. It's preeeetty rare to see fiction that portrays murder as normal and socially acceptable.

For comparison there's a lot of fiction that portrays the harassment of women as normal and socially acceptable.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there are a whole lot of stock, overused excuses to have the main male lead go on a glamorized, glorified murdering spree? You're like proving my point with the first half then denying it in the second

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
My point is that while glorifying murder in fiction is tasteless, it's also harmless and gets a free pass because there's just nobody in the audience of a violent film who comes out the theater thinking "wow I'm totally gonna bash someone's brains out now". The taboo is too strong for any work of fiction to have an influence.
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[personal profile] luxshine 2016-06-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
DA.

And in the very, VERY rare case in which someone uses a violent film as an excuse to go out in a killing spree... the movie IS penalized. Even if the excuse is incredibly flimsy, there is a conversation about normalizing violence and it all ends up with people agreeing that even IF the hero goes in a "glamorized, glorified murdering spree", there's no reason do repeat that in the real world because murder is wrong no matter what.

That doesn't happen at all with domestic violence, as we still have a bunch of stock excuses built within society (Starting with the really horrible "She did something to deserve it", which includes everything from "not agreeing to go to prom with me" to "she existed")

(Anonymous) 2016-06-04 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I see what you're driving at here but I don't think you reached it.

Yes as a society we can all say murder is wrong.

But as a society, we also definitely do not condone domestic violence for whatever reason and reports of violence against women for those flimsy reasons are always plastered all over news sources and held up as despicable.

There are idiots who thinking killing someone is not always wrong. There are also idiots who think domestic violence isn't wrong. There are people who think that rape isn't wrong. I could go on and on.

But as a society we definitely do not condone these things.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-03 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I find Charles Manson interesting. I do not fucking excuse what he did for a second.