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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-11 03:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #3447 ]


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Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but that's because I don't tend to like the type of people who are gun owners. It seems like, to a man, they are all socially backwards rednecks with inferiority complexes and rage issues. Usually they aren't too enlightened on other issues either.

In this case, however, I don't think it would have made a difference. He wanted to kill this woman and he got up close to do it. If all he had was a knife she'd be just as dead. Murdering assholes are going to be murdering assholes.

I am with you, in that I'm anti-gun, but in this case I don't know if it would have helped.

Like, making it illegal to own a gun probably wouldn't have dissuaded someone who was planning a murder, and making it harder for him to get one wouldn't have made it harder for him to commit this murder.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Her brother tackled the killer after he shot her. If he'd had a knife, a struggle probably would have broken out as he came at her, and maybe people would still have gotten hurt but it would have been a different situation.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He did have a knife tho, he had two guns and a hunting knife.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well then he chose what he must have felt was the more effective weapon.

I mean, obviously if the intent to harm exists something bad will happen, but we can't pretend all scenarios are equal here.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-11 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Speaking in a general sense here, at least knives (and cars, since people bring those up in the "other things can be just as deadly" argument) also have non-violent purposes for them. There's reasons for them to exist that don't involve stabbing people, or running them over.

The only use a gun has is to injure or kill, be it an animal or a human. That's it. Therefore, they are (or should be, at least) treated and viewed differently in the "deadly weapons" list compared to knives or cars or bats or whatever.
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Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

[personal profile] grausam 2016-06-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
this. guns are just too good at killing people.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
"to a man"

I am a woman with a concealed-carry permit. Your "argument," such as it is, is invalid.

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
that doesn't render their argument invalid at all

gun owners sure am smart!!!

Re: RIP Christina Grimmie

(Anonymous) 2016-06-12 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"to a man" implies that all gun owners are men. Which is manifestly not true.