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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-15 06:38 pm

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Re: tw: animal cruelty

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
All of a sudden people and celebrities (not necessarily vegetarians) on Twitter are trying to get Chinese people to stop eating dog meat. How is this different from us eating cows or pigs?
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Re: tw: animal cruelty

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-06-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Because not nearly enough Americans appreciate the virtues of a pet pig. Mini cows are cute too, though mini bulls can be ornery bastards.

Re: tw: animal cruelty

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-06-16 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
You're a thinker, OP.

I like you.

However, I'm pretty sure the real answer is that the meat industry in North America is ostensibly* less about hanging cows alive and torturing them because of a belief that this makes the meat taste better.

*depending on who you believe, since there are allegedly a lot of inhumane practices including torturing animals that go on behind the scenes in factory farms

Re: tw: animal cruelty

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's not, but it helps people feel better about killing and eating millions of cows and chickens and pigs every year I suppose.

Re: tw: animal cruelty

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't, but most people in countries with industrialized meat production don't keep their own food animals anymore, and have lost the ability (which I'm not saying is good or bad) to distinguish between "animal I keep for companionship" and "animal I keep for dinner." Most small farms had pets and working animals that got names, and nameless ones destined for the table, which people didn't get super attached to if they could help it.

I haven't eaten meat for 20+ years, but if I step back from my cultural bias, it's actually just as sad that we westerners (and Chinese people) eat pigs. They're as smart or smarter than dogs. And I'm too squeamish but if I was really devoted to animal welfare I'd eat bugs. I don't think people who eat meat are evil, but I think factory farming is evil, and beating a live animal so it'll taste better is evil, and eating threatened or endangered species when you have other sources of food to hand is evil.

(Some people are starving, but seriously, if you're gonna eat a shark fin or a tiger penis, eat the rest of the goddamn shark or tiger. On a personal sad squick note, I'm horrified that pangolins are going extinct because they're "medicine." They're so cool, but they don't have the charismatic mammal cachet of tigers or rhinos.

Re: tw: animal cruelty

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that the double standard is pretty revolting. I'm a vegetarian, for the record, I don't eat any animals - but I'm not necessarily morally against meat (if it's sustainable) as long as there is no animal cruelty involved. I don't like the reports of cruelty at these dog meat festivals. I think people have every right to make a big protest over that. But if they don't care how other "acceptable as food" animals are treated, they can go fuck themselves. There's a lot of animal cruelty in China among a lot of animals. There's a lot of animal cruelty in the US among a lot of animals. Let's not just focus on dogs because we think humans should have a companion-type relationship with them (cows and pigs can make amazing pets, too, after all)

Re: tw: animal cruelty

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's not, really. It's that the majority of people campaigning for this have emotional attachments to dogs that they don't have to pigs, cows, chickens, etc. so it's a lot easier for them to point the finger at a group they don't belong to (and easier still if it's foreigners with a reputation for eating "gross" or "weird" things that normal people shouldn't be neating) and say how disgusting it is and how it should be stopped. It's no skin off their nose.

Look at it another way... if all the Hindus in India stood up and told the rest of the world they should stop eating cows, would any of the countries where beef is commonly eaten pay attention? Probably not.