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⌈ Secret Post #3452 ⌋

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[Courage, the Cowardly Dog]

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[Vampire Princess Miyu]

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[Powerpuff Girls]

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[The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, Evelyn/Imhotep]

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[Orphan Black]

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[Lost in Translation]

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Picture to Burn was written at age sixteen. I did stupid shit at 16.

Better than Revenge I have no excuse for and yes, it pisses me off too.

Dear John: Source, because I have literally never heard that and in fact heard that he broke up with her.

Never Ever is your typical pop break up song and is not any more bitchy than any other pop break up song.

I don't think she does too much identifying stuff these days unless it's positive or wistful.

"Literally the only nice one she had about an ex was Back to December because she realized she'd been a bitch to Taylor Lautner by dumping HIM."

I Wish You Would, Wildest Dreams, Tim McGraw, Breathe (which can also be interpreted as 'I did this'), The Other Side Of The Door has her openly admit to being irrational, The Way I Loved You refers to fighting but in a wistful manner, If This Was A Movie assigns blame to both parties, I Want You Back is VERY self hating, Last Kiss is wistful, as are I Almost Do, Red, and Sad Beautiful Tragic, and Style has an on-off relationship. Add in most of her 'positive' romantic songs being produced/released AFTER the break up. Don't test me on T-Swift knowledge, you will lose.

*applause*

Thank you!

This is an excellent rebuttal.

Thank you! Taylor Swift is basically 90% of my playlist. She's the only artist I've ever consistently liked from start to finish, and I totally get why people don't like her as an artist, and even why people don't like her as a person! But I won't stand for blatantly untrue statements, if you're going to hate something for any other reason than 'I just do' (Because we all have that thing we hate for no reason) you should at least have your facts straight.

I don't know a whole lot about her, myself, but I do like a few of her songs, and I've heard about her doing really nice things for fans. And she seems pretty business savvy with her career, too, which I respect-some artists aren't lucky enough to have that kind of control over their careers. She's okay with me :).

And I totally agree about getting one's facts straight, too.

Yeah, I think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms about some of her older songs and mishaps, but I think she's really matured and mellowed a lot, and she goes out of her way to be sweet to her fans.

Well, like you so aptly noted, she was in her teens when she first started out. Lots of teenagers say and do stupid stuff, but most of us are fortunate enough to not have our mistakes put out into the public sphere like hers were. I loved Britney Spears when I was a teenager (and still like some of her songs), so I'm very forgiving and understanding of teenage celebrities' struggle to transition from teen stardom to adulthood. It's a really messy transition sometimes.

But yeah, so long as she's learning from her mistakes and maturing and all that good stuff, then it's okay to live and let live with some of her early missteps.

Yep, if I'd gotten famous at 16 I would be in hiding right now. Hell, I'm 23 and I still do some awfully stupid things. It's a good thing no one follows me with a camera.

I agree, and I think the anons who've been complaining about her being bitchy just haven't seen the way she's been responding to things as she gets older. Which honestly makes sense, because if I didn't like Taylor Swift I certainly wouldn't be listening to her fourth and fifth albums just to see if she matured.

I am forever thankful that my teen years happened well before Facebook/Tumblr/Twitter even existed. So, SO thankful. And I'm definitely glad to not be a celebrity, either.

"Bitchy" is a word that gets thrown around so much nowadays that it tends to lose some of its meaning, too, I feel. Someone could call me "bitchy" simply because I got up on the wrong side of the bed one day and had a grouchy moment, y'know :p? I imagine that's probably the case with Taylor, too. I figure there's probably days when she really doesn't want to do an interview, or might just want to hole up in her home and ignore the world for a day, or she's tired 'cause she's been on tour for god knows how long, or whatever, and she just needs to vent it all out in her songs as a result. Looking at it in that context, I feel that makes her less a bitch and more someone who just has a bad day like any other human being. At least she's channeling that frustration and anger in a healthy way through her music, unlike the way some other celebrities vent their personal issues, so if her metho works for her, then great.

I think honestly we have to stop pretending we know anything about Celebrity's personalities. 1) Some of them have specifically cultivated an 'image' and they stick to that image at all costs (See: Every Disney Channel Star ever), and 2) I'd be pretty fake and grumpy if there was a camera in my face at all times.

And let's be real. I have had three major break ups in my life. In hindsight, I can feel mostly mature about them and own up to my own mistakes, though at least one of them still makes me pretty angry. But at the time? Oh no, any song I would have written would have been a mix of rage and sobbing. And the first thing I do when I'm upset is write a poem, so I can see where her inspiration comes from.

Exactly.

Especially spot on with your comment about breakups. LOTS of people are bitter about at least one breakup somewhere in their lives. Feelings are kind of irrational that way, especially when it comes to the issues of love and sex.

Yup. The only time she's had a break up where I cringed is the aforementioned 'Better Than Revenge', which is horrifically slut-shamey, but was also written when she was younger, still not openly calling herself a feminist, and at a time where she openly stated she felt like she had to keep her 'pure, child-friendly' image in order to be a good role model for her fans.

Hahahaha. So much win.

Don't test me on T-Swift knowledge, you will lose.

While I respect anyone's right to be a celeb junkie, I don't think it's necessarily something to be proud of.

I don't really feel like I was expressing a whole lot of pride there.

A) having a strong knowledge of a musician's body of work is not "being a celeb junkie."

B) it is my strong opinion that caring in a positive manner about something and having knowledge about that thing is almost always a good thing. Maybe not world-altering or life-saving, but still usually a mark in life's general plus column.

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