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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-20 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3456 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3456 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Magicians]


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[Chicago PD]


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[A Little Lily Princess]


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[A Game of Thrones]


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[Faking It]










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(Anonymous) 2016-06-20 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
HTTYD?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-06-20 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
How To Train Your Dragon. And I have to admit, seeing the art in that secret is giving me nasty flashbacks to the late 90s/early 2000s.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-20 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll agree with this, yeah. I know people have talked before about how some fans of kids' media get all uber serious about it because they have a hard time admitting they like something targeted at kids, and I think that can sometimes show in their attempt at darker fics for that cartoon/children's book, too.

Like you said, there are ways to make it work, and some kids' media is very good at dealing with tough and serious topics. But I agree that some fans don't know how to handle those serious topics very well, and mistake over the top drama for being "mature", or, as your secret states, "edgy".
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-06-20 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it depends on what the specific fandom is. Like, Harry Potter is one of those where it started out as for kids and ended up as for adults, only I never thought it went far enough. So I enjoy darkfics and in general who portray an actual war and such.

But if canon is completely light and fluffy or with only slight smatterings of darkness and villains who are easily defeated? Then no, I don't want darkfic.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-20 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Congrats on demonstrating the nerd-cringe for everyone. You are exactly what the OP was talking about.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-06-20 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really sure what you mean by this?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-20 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao what?
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+1

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-06-20 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way about Steven Universe. There are all these implications that the villain faction is a totalitarian hellhole (lower castes used as slaves, a ban on intimate relationships between castes, old artistic traditions so thoroughly suppressed a younger character didn't know what music was . . .) The show still has to be appropriate for eight-year-olds, so a lot of it's left to the imagination, but fanfic thrives in unexplored spaces, and I've seen a lot of interesting stuff about the lives of slaves in that society.

Then again, I've written darkfic for My Little Pony, so what do I know?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
YMMV I guess. I think that stuff can work really well. It doesn't have to involve original characters either (and some are better adapted to a darker setting than others anyway). Sometimes it's fun to explore the darker side of a pretty fluffy world we've been presented with.

I do think if it's really dark and includes really mature themes (more-than-mild violence, gore, etc.) it shouldn't be posted in places where children are likely to find it, but that (hopefully) goes without saying.
Edited 2016-06-20 23:12 (UTC)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-06-20 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. It depends on the fic author. Some can make it work. Many of them can't. But there are some great authors who have written good stuff, and some fandoms may not be entirely dark but there is enough room to adapt pretty well.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-21 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
If the universe of whatever the original is isn't especially dark on its own then I can agree with this; it just seems like trying too hard or relying on shock value sometimes, or maybe that the author really wants the canon to be something different from what it is.

But then if the original does have violence/death/similar "adult" topics actually occurring in it, like the secret says, or even just mentions or implications of them, I think darker fic can and sometimes does work. Like, the protagonists may not have experienced that type of thing firsthand (whether through luck or just because the work is aimed at kids and can't go too far), but it clearly does exist in that world and could potentially be explored.

I agree that writing "dark" often goes too far in trying to seem edgy, but I guess that doesn't especially bother me since the sheer amount of fan fiction out there means a lot of genres aren't done well across a lot of fandoms. Usually darker fic for a generally light canon might work better if it involves some OCs or an established side character from the original rather than just the protagonists suddenly being edgy for the sake of edge, which could throw readers off.