[ SECRET POST #3462 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3462 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/1wjB8Fq.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

BIG
HUMAN

[(Anonymous)]

I love how little Noldor Elrond has in him. Some of the choices in the tree are speculative though but it's probably how I would've gone.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't help thinking of the pick-up line.

"Do you have a little Noldor in you?"

"No..."

"Would you like one?"

[philstar22]

Some of them I could actually see use that line.

[philstar22]

This makes me so happy.

[(Anonymous)]

So now I'm wondering exactly what percentage of Aragorn is non-human, seeing as he is Elros's something-like-200th descendant, but with plenty of mild inbreeding from third and fourth cousins (and fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth cousins) of functionally-human-but-not-biologically-pure-human Dunedain marrying each other all through the third age.

Is this like how it was recently discovered that humans and Neanderthals used to mate and therefore a bunch of people throughout the globe are like 1% Neanderthal but none of the scientists know if this makes a difference or not? Are elves secretly Neanderthals?

[(Anonymous)]

Not a bunch of people throughout the globe - Europeans, especially north-western Europeans, have up to 3% Neanderthal DNA. However, some Chinese and Melanesian people have Denisovian DNA, another proto-human race.

[(Anonymous)]

I frickin' love this chart.

The Feanorians are the only ridic ethnic purists because of course they are.

[(Anonymous)]

Partly also because only one of Feanor's sons had a child (and since we don't know who Celebrimbor's mother is, she might well not have been Noldor, not that it's very likely). If the others had married (which they did according to some documents, but not according to the Silmarillion) and had children (which they didn't even in the other documents), who knows if that side of the family would look as purely Noldorin.

[shahrizai]

Aaaand this is why I still don't understand anything that happened in the Silmarillion.

Reading difficulty:

The Hobbit - easy mode
LotR - normal mode
The Silmarillion - BULLET HELL

[(Anonymous)]

The solution is to a) keep a map of Beleriand with you at all times, b) keep a couple versions of the family tree of the House of Finwe with you at all times, and c) keep checking out some tumblr blogs that post a lot of Silmarillion stuff, this really, really helped me a lot.

Also, I would say that if you do ever decide you want to power through it, just accept that you will probably have no idea what's going on for the first 1/3rd of the book. The first 1/3rd is WAY easier to understand if you shrug through it the first time around and then later go back to it after finishing reading the entire thing.

The problem with the Silmarillion is that it was never designed or framed as a cohesive narrative - it was just a collection of worldbuilding and backstories Tolkien accumulated over the course of decades, which his son later attempted to organize into a semi-chronological order.

[(Anonymous)]

don't be embarrassed

the fact that fiction can make complicated RL concepts easier to understand and digest is one of the greatest things about it

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

First off, I can't help think that those racial makeups also don't say much about what ethnic identity they think themselves - Gil-Galad is half-Sindar there but is considered Ñoldor and was the Ñoldor King. Elrond has so little Ñoldor but I always got the impression he might have considered himself Ñoldor, if not from his time with Maedhros and Maglor, then for the time he was a subject of Gil-Galad.

The other thing, it makes me think is the version for my RP-verse. It gets complicated very quickly when you get to Maglor's daughter - she married (the totally NOT DEAD) Eluréd. What does that end up with? 1/16th Maia, 1/8 Human, 2.5/8 Sindar, 1/4 Ñoldor, and 1/4 Silmaril.

And that is not even touching the complexity of Elenaria marrying two guys, one of whom is half-dwarf.