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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-26 03:10 pm

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Re: Brexit - Petition for a Second Referendum

(Anonymous) 2016-06-26 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The simple justification is that the "winning" side told a pile of lies, have now admitted they told a pile of lies to win, made promises they had no intention of keeping, and have admitted that too, that they only had the vote for their own personal gain and only because they thought they would lose, and now we are all screwed. Also, a lot of people were not able to vote, through weather, french strikes, glastonbury, etc, and many who did vote have now come forward and said they didn't think it would actually happen and were only doing it to send a message to shock the government.

There is also the constitutional technicality that The Westminster Parliament no longer had the power to decide whether to unilaterally withdraw from the European Union in the first place as need for agreement from the devolved parliaments first was written into the devolution bills. Er...oops. I'd say there was plenty of grounds for not just a second referendum, but for running it again in the knowledge that all constituent nations of the UK have to agree; that it has to have a majority in all of them. They don't have that right now.

Re: Brexit - Petition for a Second Referendum

(Anonymous) 2016-06-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a European, I didn't want the Brexit, and I'm appalled at the xenophobia and violence on display today, but...sorry, no. People don't get a do-over because politicians lied. Politicians lie all the time, and there's a responsibility on the side of the voter to inform themselves about the consequences of their vote. Personally, I think all these politicians should be fucking ashamed of themselves for exploiting people like this, but...a lot of people were uncritically eating that shit up, and this is the result. And "I didn't think that side would win so I gave them my vote" is not an excuse at all, either. I get being disillusioned and fed up with politics but...come on now. All my sympathies go out to the people who voted Remain and feel screwed over by a small majority now, but all this whinging after the fact by people who voted Leave is infuriating, to be honest.

You're right in that there still might be some loophole or some way around Brexit yet, we won't know before the British government gets its shit together. But not by doing it over with flimsy excuses like this.

Re: Brexit - Petition for a Second Referendum

(Anonymous) 2016-06-26 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
>>>And "I didn't think that side would win so I gave them my vote" is not an excuse at all, either.

Seriously, this. What utter bullshit. If a person is dumb enough to vote for something they're actually against, I got no sympathy.

Re: Brexit - Petition for a Second Referendum

(Anonymous) 2016-06-26 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The simple justification is that the "winning" side told a pile of lies, have now admitted they told a pile of lies to win

Citation needed.

Re: Brexit - Petition for a Second Referendum

(Anonymous) 2016-06-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I hope the UK remains the UK and stays in the EU somehow, but politicians lied=politicians were politicians. If every democracy threw out every vote on that basis, nothing would be decided, ever. Politicians lie so people will vote for them. Everyone, especially protest voters who thought they were protesting government inaction or corruption, should know that.