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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-30 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3466 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3466 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[BRÅVES- "Lovely Bones" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiTx4qufF2g)]


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[The Doctor Blake Mysteries]


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[fault milestone one]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/XFAoKt9.png
[linked for porn, animated]











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(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Never heard of the song or the video. Checked it out.

Song is boring.

Video is boring and definitely sexualizing young girls at times. Inappropriate.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
How do you feel about secret #9?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, do you mind expanding on what biases precisely they're meant to be challenging?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The bias against seeing underage girls as sex objects. The last true prejudice. Duh!

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That's some 11/10 usage of liberal jargon to defend pedophilia, OP. I'll have to remember that one.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Lmfao how is this pedophilia? These girls are apparently competing nationally in Russia according to some article Google spit out at me and it's considered a sport (which I can see why, pole dancing looks like it takes some major coordination). Pedophilia specifically references someone being attracted to underage children, and it doesn't sound like OP is saying "yeah 10/10 would totally bang", they mentioned they really liked the song, and the music video was interesting.

You people are such kneejerk psychos over this shit sometimes I swear to god. Reading the article they make a pretty damn good case for why they used them in the video. They said when they heard of these girls competing in a pole dancing competition they were uncomfortable. Then they actually watched them perform, and realized they were approaching their situation with biases already inherent. You're just supposed to sit back and enjoy how talented they are, and there's no doubt these girls are talented. I could barely lift my arm to grab the Cheetos bag at thirteen, much less work on the kind of core muscles those moves take.

To top it all off a bunch of proceeds are being donated to victims of child trafficking. The video is intentionally supposed to make you think, and it does.

I guess that means I'm a ~pedophile~ now though. Best inform my boyfriend and turn myself in even though children disgust me at the best of times.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You're just supposed to sit back and enjoy how talented they are, and there's no doubt these girls are talented.
There is no doubt these kids are talented, but that is definitely not the impression I got watching the video. When the camera zoomed in on one of the girl's lower abdomen/vaginal area and then panned up to her breasts it made me really uncomfortable. As did the shots of the girls breathing heavily and sticking their tongues out slightly. If this had just been a video of the girls performing, I might have felt differently, but the part of the video I could get myself to watch before being so uncomfortable I had to stop it definitely seemed sexualized.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

It sounds like you sure put a lot of very specific thought into the sexualization of these girls.

da

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
lol your ad hominem argument is pathetic

actually putting thoughts and facts behind an accusation of sexualization sure is suspicious! /s

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Please. The comment I replied to was more sexual than the video.

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(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Setting aside the other parts of the argument, if you can't understand why sexualizing minors is something that people are a little sensitive about, I'm not sure what to say.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's about "being trapped in a web and loving it" according to the artists themselves, but they also want the video to bring attention to child trafficking? But the song isn't about trafficking, it's just the video because it features young girls pole dancing?

I don't get it.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The song doesn't relate in a literal way to the video, it's just the same sort of dark "tone" going on. They're not literally trying to say pole dancing= child trafficking, a literal interpretation of that subject matter would be pretty damn dark and very inappropriate. Instead they just chose something that seems to invoke a response in the viewer in the same way. There was some outcry exactly like this about the other song OP mentions too, Sia's "Chandelier" video. That isn't sexual at all either, and honestly the two videos remind me a hell of a lot of one another so I can see why OP mentioned it, but people just had a visceral reaction to seeing a young girl in a leotard dancing around and doing interpretive movements.

I think they're trying to push for the viewer to examine their own biases from what I can gather.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-06-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
When is pole dancing not sexual? Isn't that exactly what it is designed to be?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There are some people who do it for exercise/because they like the skill it takes. But it is still associated with strippers and sexuality in a way that gymnastics and other athletic things aren't, and they had to know that.

Though I guess that could be the thing they're trying to challenge- that pole dancing is more sexual than other sports young girls do?

Still, has little to do with trafficking.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-06-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally I don't find it sexy at all, I'm just impressed by the athleticism. But of course that doesn't keep it from being sexual when most other people see it that way.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a pretty big push to have pole dancing recognized as a sport separate from stripping. If you look up some videos a lot of women and men are into the athletic side of things, because pole dancing is actually super hard to do. From what I can tell these girls are competing in a national athletic pole dancing competition. Watching the video, their moves aren't inherently sexual, really the only "sexual" part is the fact that pole dancing has been linked to strippers so your mind immediately goes there. If anything the video just seems to be showing off athletics and being artsyweird with extended closeups on the girls making sooper srz bzns faces. Nothing groundbreaking, but certainly nothing to get up in arms over either.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-07-01 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
because pole dancing is actually super hard to do

I can only imagine; some of these moves must take an extraordinary amount of strength and control! I was impressed by how talented and in-shape these kids were. (If only I was half as athletic as these kids.)

I didn't think the video felt sexy, but I still had an initial thought of, "Kids pole dancing?!" That alone will make it feel skeevy to some people, and I can't entirely blame them given the culture we live in and how pole dancing has been viewed till now, but I definitely wouldn't mind a shift in that. Pole dancing as a sport is a fun concept.

(Hell, I would LOVE to learn pole dancing for exercise, even though I feel like I'd bust my ass attempting it.)

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Taking two fists up your ass is also super hard to do. Why don't you go examine your biases about that?

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Oh for....think of it this way: it's the parallel bars except it's sideways and there's only one.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
That was not a sexualized dance routine. That was an athletic routine.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Song was dull.

I wish I was that athletic and coordinated

Art house cinematography. Eh. I was around when MTV kicked off. That sort of stuff makes no impression.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I could never understand US's fascination with bones.