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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-30 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #450 ]


⌈ Secret Post #450 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 395 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 ] argument has been going on forever.
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[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I AGREE X OVER 9000 AND I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK IT'S SO UNBELIEVABLY CRACKY AND RETARDED. -How- the stupid girls can say it's 'canon' makes me want to smack them with a fish. Having it for lulz is one thing, but honestly--NO. Roy/Ed is one of the few slash pairing that bug the crapola out of me...

Re: 14

[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
What if it's a fan that likes it for the crack aspect, and cringes at all the fangirls who think it's "OMGSOCANON" giving us a bad name? Ignoring that those fangirls make up the majority of fans for that pairing...

I don't know... I got into it for the awkward and 'the lulz' and I never really expected it to blow so much out of proportion. It was a crack pairing to start with.

Re: 14

[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Out of control crazies are in -every- fandom, I guess. I know where you're coming from, like...(okay not the same thing but whatever). -I- get made fun of for my flamboyant caplock of Winry/Sheska (EVEN THO I WILL DEFEND THE ANIME'S FANSERVICE LULZ TO THE BITTER ENDDDD xD)...and omg, Armstrong/ANYONE. My crack Naruto's Kakashi/Sakura, FFVII's Aerith/Tifa, and YGO's Kaiba/Yuugi thank goodness haven't been ruined too much by the dumb (unlike my poor, poor Sasuke/Naruto D;), but the FMA Roy/Ed fans ruined it for me before I could even start. D:

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
WinryxScieszka is so canon, though. It can not be denied. Or something. I know, it's like taboo to like yaoi and yuri in some places... I must say Kakashi/Sakura intrigues me on a crack level, but I don't watch the series so I just sit and marvel at the amount of people who sincerely seem to enjoy that pairing (at all various time periods) and I'm usually one to strongly oppose massive age gaps (I won't read RoyxEd unless Ed's at least sixteen, and prefer him over eighteen, but that's just me. AU-fic, whut.) Although I didn't think Aerith/Tifa was a crack pairing, but again, uh- so far buried in FMA fandom I haven't seen another one since YYH...

and yes, the Sasuke/Naruto or... whichever way you want that to go- far outranks Roy/Ed for all the drama and fangirlism cliches, from what I've seen.
Sad how fun things have to be ruined like that.

Re: 14 lol this is going on for a while and i'm so freaking glad to be talking to you. xD

[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
WinryxScieszka is so canon, though. It can not be denied.

...ILU now you know. :DDDDDD OMGGGG I think that was my highlight of the whole movie was seeing them together like all the time. :'D

Or something. I know, it's like taboo to like yaoi and yuri in some places...

Amen. It's so horrible and drives me crazy how narrow-minded people all you can't like yaoi, yuri, AND het (and gen! anyone remember GEN?! xD)

at least sixteen, and prefer him over eighteen
I totally totally totally agree--it's weird for me because I'M 18 and rarely now if I'm handling the relationship right (lofls, but then, does anyone at any age? xD). Kakashi/Sakura; Sephiroth/Cloud; insert-other-pairing here subtext is kinda hot I guess if it's handled right, much like other 'taboos' (*cough cough* my beloved elricest *cough*), but nothing until there's more maturity/development psychologically for the younger half of the age gap--even the most mature fifteen year old has nothing on an older kid, to me and I liked to see it grow into equals.

I didn't think Aerith/Tifa was a crack pairing

Crack/Tifa/Aerith in the sense that "crap she's dead! @$#%@$#@%#$" xD And it never pops up in AU's or anything like that! D: IDK, I'm pretty broad in my definition of crack; as in that I automatically think 'lawls, the writers would NEVER do this,' in addition to my WTF meter scale.

all the drama and fangirlism cliches

As a rule, I no longer really read it unless recc'ed or I trust the author's history... D:

Sad how fun things have to be ruined like that.
But they will never be able to ruin my mind-crack of Naruto's Gai/FMA's Armtstrong--NEVAR!

I'm always so paranoid to be stepping on someone's toes, I'm glad we see eye to eye on some stuff...

[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to admit, as awesome as the Winry/Scieszka togetherness was in the movie - and revisiting the alien line, made that whole scene for me - it was the Elrics being together that made the actual movie. Yes, I'm one of those annoying fans that reads RoyxEd and ships Elricest like it ought to be canon.

I love gen-fic. It's so hard to come across, the smaller the fandom gets- but I really do love it. My favorite fic for about a year was a gen-fic revolving around Roy/Ed that was probably supposed to be insinuative, but remained nuetral. It was beautiful, and I've yet to find a gen-fic that comes even close to comparing to how much I enjoyed that one. Also... gen-fic is pretty much all I write.
Even if I write pairing-fics, it's barely more than PG for content.

Right, for me- pairings are all about handling the subtext write. You could write a canon pairing, and if you do it wrong- I'm not interested. I want to feel that in the writing, not just 'know' they're together because it's assumed. Taboos are fun, but that's probably part of the reason I enjoy Elricest way more than any other pairing in FMA. Ed and Al are the closest close can be, Ed doesn't leave Al behind for four years, Al's not in charge of Ed's missions. They're equal, and helplessly and pathetically need each other. I might adore love/hate when done right (and complain that I hate all fluff) but if you give me fluff with an awesome dynamic- it's just all about how it's written. Which is why I really can't pick one genre over the rest. (Although if I had to.... it'd probably be angst.)

I like your definition of crack. It makes more sense than "the characters have to be throwing spoons at each other, and doing strange things" in order to be crack. Crack is just.... not feasible. That's all it should really be, in my opinion. But yeah, that makes perfect sense. The whole she's dead thing, I honestly forgot about that... which is why I went o.O crack, what?

As a rule, I no longer really read it unless recc'ed or I trust the author's history... D:

Seconded. Extremely. I barely read any fic at all now, because of it. But, at least I know the ones I do read- I love.

o.o Gai/Armstrong. I swear I've heard that someplace before. Haha, so I guess you're not alone. Although I don't know much about Gai to even guess at how that would work.

Re: I'm always so paranoid to be stepping on someone's toes, I'm glad we see eye to eye on some stuf

[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Then may I friend you and maybe one day thoroughly show you the light of Gai/ARMSTRONG? xD

Plus seriously this was really cool and maybe you can recc me a Roy/Ed I could read without wanting to kill something by replacing/deleting Al and Winry as he most important things in Ed's life?

Re: 14

[identity profile] skymeetssea.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
What if it's a fan that likes it for the crack aspect, and cringes at all the fangirls who think it's "OMGSOCANON" giving us a bad name?

WinryxScieszka is so canon, though. It can not be denied.

...

You know what man, I'm not even gonna touch this thread :/

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I suppose I should put a disclaimer with all of my jokes then.

Seriously- yes, in all seriousness, I believe that there are -no- canon pairings in FMA. I don't even ship WinryxScieszka any more than enjoying them on screen together. Then again, I don't really 'ship' anything in FMA so much anymore. I just always thought it was really cute.

So, thank you- for touching the thread, because clearly I needed to explain myself.

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[identity profile] skymeetssea.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that makes more sense. I was just like man, wth for a second.

The trouble with F!S is that I can't ever tell when people are joking or not half the time.

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, trust me I know exactly what you mean. Which is why I'm never sure if I should bother commenting on things, in general. I, myself, have a lot of trouble portraying things in a way that doesn't get misunderstood - and it's only tenfold here.

but, re-reading my original comment that is what the following 'or something' was supposed to signify. "It can not be denied, or something."

but yeah, sorry about the confusion.

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[identity profile] skymeetssea.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
NP. Like you said, it happens. Sorry I failed at reading comprehension too.

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[identity profile] llivla.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
lol; people really didn't read the whole thread did they? xD

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[identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
What if it's a fan that likes it for the crack aspect, and cringes at all the fangirls who think it's "OMGSOCANON" giving us a bad name?
...
WinryxScieszka is so canon, though. It can not be denied.


Ah.

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[identity profile] repeatvoffender.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Since I feel the need to defend myself, on the level of sounding like a hypocrite. The second line was a joke. (I don't even seriously ship them.)

I believe that nothing in FMA is canon, and only said that to exaggerate my point of 'approving' of said pairing.