[ SECRET POST #450 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #450 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 395 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 ] argument has been going on forever.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[sabbato.livejournal.com]

I'm not disagreeing that Kristoph didn't use Klavier but from my understanding Kristoph only informed Klavier that Phoenix had false evidence.

There wasn't much else given to hint that he used Klavier outside of Kristoph's mental breakdown in court. The same can be said for Iris and how Dahlia spoke of her sister.

Kristoph only got away with killing a total of two people. Dahlia, if I recall correctly, got away with killing four people, five if you include Diego. I think the set up for Dahlia's malicious intent was much more well done and set up than Kristoph's.

Kristoph didn't get away with anything for "seven" years. Nothing happened until seven years later only getting away with a murder that should have happened seven years before - but that's amazing in itself.

Don't get me wrong! Kristoph is an amazing character and I really like him, but I think it was the execution of the plot that affected my point of view.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Dahlia's malicious intent was definitely more set up than Kristoph's. Kristoph killed Shadi, Drew, and attempted to kill Vera. Dahlia killed Valerie, Doug, and tried to kill Phoenix and Diego. If I'm missing anyone let me know; it's pretty late and I haven't played that game in a while.

Kristoph "got away" with forging evidence, which was longer than Dahlia got away with stealing the jewel.

I generally do like Kristoph,but I think that when it comes to the evilness factor Dahlia and Kristoph are roughly the same. What makes Kristoph slightly more evil, IMO, is that he is not given the reasoning Dahlia has. A lot of that could be contributed to how the game itself was set up. Hopefully GS5 will feature some more of Kristoph, because he seriously has a lot of potential I hope Capcom doesn't waste.

[sabbato.livejournal.com]

Dahlia killed, if I remember correctly, Doug, "Diego", Valerie, herself, and Terry (on a technicality because he did drink the poison she told him to). I think there was someone else but it's been a while and I'm replaying through the third game again to make sure I didn't miss anyone.

I think my biggest curiosity about Kristoph is the psychlocks surrounding him during the Mason System. I'm more curious as to if it may be his motive but...I've never been good at breaking those things.

I just really love Dahlia as a character because she has reasons to be as psychotic as she was. I'm pretty into detailed history and knowing about a person so the fact that we know plenty of Dahlia's history and family life really makes me side more with Dahlia being the more evil party.

Her reasons for murder are quite fucked up, for a lack of a better term.

I hope Capcom doesn't waste the chance either. Apollo Justice lacked something as a game but it has so much potential to become greater. I'm actually looking forward to what will happen next.

[(Anonymous)]

I too am curious about Kristoph's psychlocks. I really hope that it has something to do with his motive/history, becuase the "motive" (if you can call it that) the game gave us was perhaps one of my biggest disapointments in the game :(

I love Dahlia's character, too. She's so messed up, and there's no denying some of the things she does are horrible, but she has a good motive and backstory. Also burning butterflies ftw.

I really hope that Capcom does better with GS5. AJ had so much potential, but I feel that the game really fell flat. Hopefully, they'll learn from their mistakes and make a great fifth game :)

[miss_prince.livejournal.com]

Burning butterflies = best sprite animation ever.