[ SECRET POST #450 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #450 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 395 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 ] argument has been going on forever.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Anti-feminism, for me, has nothing to with feminism, but anti-batshit insane hypocrisy. Because I've noticed a trend that a good majority of feminists don't give a shit about equality and seem to be only about female superiority. So, should I start pointing fingers now at all the people in this thread that have given me that impression?

I'm not saying all feminists are insanely difficult to deal with and stubborn, but it seems like a lot of them are. (See: This whole thread.) They accused her on a TREND like she's an example. And really, who can blame her for not wanting to argue with feminists because anyone with half a brain knows the argument wouldn't get anyone ANYWHERE but ready to *headdesk*.

[athousandwinds.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry I've given you that impression while arguing with me. If you read comms like metafandom, I think you'll find that when misandry crops up (and I'll admit it does - a couple of radical "feminists" of exactly the type you describe caused some trouble recently), it tends to get ripped apart by more mainstream feminists.

Honestly, I don't see the issue in this thread. glitz_x said that she disliked a female character for being evil. Fair enough, that's her prerogative. A couple of people have pointed out - and glitz_x has even conceded - that it's a little hypocritical to hate Dahlia and love Kristoph. One person has been rude about it, whereas several others have politely disagreed. glitz_x was the first person to be rude on this thread (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/144483.html?thread=45482595#t45482595), I think.

They accused her on a TREND like she's an example.

The trend is that female characters tend to get short shrift in fandom, either being ignored (as the OP of Secret #26 pointed out) or actively hated, often for doing exactly the same things as the male characters are. I doubt glitz_x is actively sexist, even if she does dislike feminists (see the definition linked to below - I suspect neither you nor glitz_x are using the same one as we are). But her dislike of Dahlia and love of Kristoph does fit that trend, however idiosyncratic her personal reaction to the characters is. The anons and others on this thread are merely pointing that out.

I'm not saying all feminists are insanely difficult to deal with and stubborn

How generous of you. This (http://community.livejournal.com/fandomsecrets/144483.html?thread=45520739#t45520739) is an effective summary of what I've been trying to say.