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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-05 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3471 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3471 ⌋

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]


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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]


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[1931: Scheherazade at the Library of Pergamum]


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[outlander, ontd-sassenach]


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(Voltron: Legendary Defender)


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[Michael Kamen]


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[Captain America (MCU), Daredevil (MCU), Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and Bleach]













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kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Based on #1

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-07-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
In fanfic (and some media), how kids act. I can only assume the majority of fic writers have never actually been near a kid.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-05 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It has literary roots back in the Victorian age where kids were treated as angelic for thematic reasons.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Based on #1

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-07-05 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't even them being super good. It is how they always sound and act way more mature than they should be. Kids can be insightful sometimes but not like how they are portrayed in fanfic.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-05 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That's Victorian too. You'd have kids as mouthpieces for the morality of the story because they were considered "pure" in a way that adults weren't.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Based on #1

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-07-05 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't think fanfic writers are mirroring Victorian literature so much as they just don't know how kids act. So they just make tiny adults (or teens).

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-05 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I mean that that type of child has permeated literature (and movies and other media) so that it a bit of a trope now. Lots of non-Victorian media calls back to that kind of character so it's not surprising to see it now. It's kind of cultural.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-05 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think the thing you're talking about does exist, but I think there's also a lot of fanfic that just writes kids shittily.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say it was the only reason but I also don't think that you can conclude it's just people not having been around kids. There are other factors.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-07 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That, or they sound/act WAY too young.
fishnchips: (Yay)

Re: Based on #1

[personal profile] fishnchips 2016-07-06 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
Or if you go an additional ~100-150 years back, people assumed children weren't really people yet and it was doubtful that they actually had souls!
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Re: Based on #1

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-07-05 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Same! Eight year olds baby talking, twelve year olds coming away from complicated, adult conversations with full comprehension of what went on, four year olds who've mastered cause and effect, and teenagers who act entirely too old or too young depending on the writer's needs. It's so weird!

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-06 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Well, we aren't all psych majors!

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-06 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
LOL whut? Since when do you have to be a psych major to know how kids act? You only have to be around kids and bother paying attention to how they act to know how kids act.

And the pathologization of childhood is utterly fucking creepy and disgusting, buddy.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-06 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it at least certainly helps when you don't have access to being around a child. Because at least some form of lifespan psychology does tend to be standard in the major and a lot of it focuses on childhood development. Devil's advocate for the "have to be a psych major thing."

But at the same time, if you do have access to being around a child firsthand is better.

Re: Based on #1

(Anonymous) 2016-07-06 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
this reminded me of the old Odd Couple episode where both Felix and Oscar insist on relating to Felix's 12 year old daughter as if she were about four. Felix actually hired a fucking CLOWN for her party and Oscar tries to talk her into watching Sesame Street!