[ SECRET POST #3473 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3473 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[ariakas]

Well, films specifically have to be short and to the point, so the aliens are going to be less nuanced than you'd find in a TV series or video game. I'd suggest those if you want more relatable aliens. Most "War Against Aliens" films are big budget popcorn flicks and their target audience wants explosions, not nuance.

OTOH if you make the Evil Aliens too justifiable in their invasion you risk pulling a Killzone and leaving the audience wondering if you really meant to make the Obvious Nazi Allegory right or something.

[(Anonymous)]

They exist for the same reason other "all evil" races/species/etc do. So the heroes can shot them down with no consequence. Pure evil beings make it easy to have plenty of violence without moral repercussions.

[a_potato]

I can understand this. And the flip side is that, in many of the stories where the aliens are made to be understandable, it's done in a "surprise, humans are the real enemy" sort of way. There's not a lot of nuance to be had, it seems.

[chardmonster]

[fingalsanteater]

Yub nub!

The Ewoks did try to roast the heroes, just saying.

[kallanda_lee]

Honestly I think it has a lot to do with authors imagining how we imagine other species (that we feel superior to)? I mean, we would not really feel bad over taking resources from monkeys, for example.

[dethtoll]

More like the aliens are stand-ins for whatever scary dogma authors are afraid of, be it Nazism, communism, or something else.

[(Anonymous)]

\reason and discourse don't look as pretty on screen as spolsions and teeth getting knocked out, plus it doesn't translate well to Chinese audiences who like to see people getting blowed up and pretending that the aliens are westerners

[(Anonymous)]

Well I miss stories where the aliens are savages who are out to do in our brave colonists who have a manifest destiny to plant human civilization on the savage planet.

Point is, fashions change, learn to live with it.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel the same way about evil AIs and robots. I find them much more interesting when they're sympathetic.

[grausam]

action-y violence needs some kind of humanoid thing to act on. As far as I see it, the acceptance of shooting them up kinda goes something like this in movies:

nazis > robots > zombies > demons or monsters > aliens > sentient robot ai > foreign terrorists > domestic terrorists > prisoners > foreigners > native mobsters > soldiers > tragic women > "normal people" > children >>> dogs

not counting overlaps, +- sexism and racism

[(Anonymous)]

projection, humans think that aliens will act like them

[ninety6tears]

I realized I pretty much felt this way when I couldn't get very excited about an Independence Day sequel.

[(Anonymous)]

I think in some cases it's a metaphor for rapacious real-world societies. How would a mountain animal see a strip-mining operation? How does it feel to be a species displaces by an invasive species?

I do think that something like Mars Attacks! is over the line into random movie monsters for whom there can be no sympathy, while something like Independence Day goes up to that line while also letting us feel what it means to be the colonized and appropriated.