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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-08 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #3474 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3474 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap]



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02. http://i.imgur.com/8Lfgcp8.jpg
[A Game of Thrones, Tyene Sand; link because OP warned for nudity]


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03.
[Independence Day]


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[Queen at Arms]


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05. [repeat]


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06. [WARNING for underage/shota]

[Boku no Pico]


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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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08. [WARNING for incest]
[WARNING for rape]



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09. [WARNING for gore, torture]
















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Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-08 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Does anybody have any thoughts for what social issues and conflicts would be going on in a world where mages and magical races have been outed/outed themselves?

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
What issues do you want to talk about? What issues is your story dealing with a esthetically? That's way more interesting and important to me than how things would really be. Especially since talking about how things would really be is only possible in a specific social context.
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-08 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose I mean like "social issues" and the like. Acceptance of magical creatures like vampires and werewolves, fae,along with mages(in my verse vampires need any kind of blood not just human blood.)

Conflicts between mages and mundanes. What kind of political issues would politicians be talking about and the like.

Basically what would be the sociopolitical fallout of a pose masquerade fantasy?

I kinda want to get people talking here but I'm also blanking on some things and figured a discussion might help. I heard somewhere that JKR said that the "masquerade" of wizards would never drop and I was super dissapointed at all the lost opportunity there.
Edited (explanation) 2016-07-08 23:32 (UTC)

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The world of HP is pretty nice. I'd live there if I could.

The real world? Not so much. Science is the only thing I'd miss.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
SA (pressed 'post' too early)

My point being, I can see why she wouldn't want to taint HP with the real world.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-08 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
ah I see.

I guess its just different styles and interests in worldbuilding.

(frozen comment) Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah sure. Or, you know, you have an ego the size of a planet.
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(frozen comment) Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-09 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Lol you again

I never said it was bad writing or anything
Different people like different ideas. I happen to like and want to explore the sociopolitic side of urban fantasy and was looking to talk to other people who do also.

Get a life.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I guess my point is that - to me - the question of what the sociopolitical fallout would really be just isn't that interesting in and of itself, it's interesting to see what writers want to do with it.
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-09 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that makes sense I probably should have worded the original post better.

Still I like the thoughts this thread is generating.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Pegasus need to file flight plans, you mean?

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Wills-o-the-Wisp being kicked out of their municipal utility district because there's a burn ban. Landlords fighting revised building codes mandating a 20-ton weight capacity for elevators to accommodate orcs. A hundred years of legislators squabbling over whether fairy dust is Schedule 1 or 2 (but not lower than 2, absolutely not).
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-09 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome idea!
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-07-09 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Though would pegasi be able to fly high enough to be a flight obstacle to aeroplanes? Admittedly, as per a story Mum has just told me, there is a serious potential risk of drones colliding with helicopters, so a pegasus could fly in mutual airspace with those, but I also think a horse with wings would be more visible than a drone.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
- Whether or not centaurs can be ticketed for pooping in the streets.
- Filing DRAGON flight plans.
- Dragons guarding bank money.
- What to do about werefolk work schedule conflicts during the full moon.
- Training seminars at a workplace about what to do if you encounter a kappa during your business trip to Japan.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Centaurs should wear pants.

And diapers if they can't stop pooping in the street on their own. ANd cut out the rape too.
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-09 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dragon flight plans sound awesome. Also expensive probably

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Genies. They are magically bound to carry out the bottle owner's wish, does that mean they are or are not legally liable for the effects of that wish?

While we're at it, Succubi and Incubus, they need to sleep with people to live. However in folklore they have little to no control over whether a person is bewitched by them. How do we handle that? They are defacto date rapists with no way to shut off their Cosbying aura, and if we simply throw them in gaol and keep them from having sex (assuming the guards would not automatically come under their spell) then they'd die.

At least with Vampires you can solicit for volunteers to voluntarily give up their blood. Succubi remove the ability to consent just by their very being.
dani_phantasma: (tiger)

Interesting thoughts!

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-07-09 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
re succubi and incubi I always liked to make them a subset of vampire that feeds off of sex instead of blood (along with energy vampires and emotion vampire, and magic vampires)

The cool thing about writing fantasy is that you can bend the rules of certain creatures a bit. I like to bend them to avoid magical races that are inherently evil by their being because the implications of "inherent evil races" don't sit well with me.

Also genies would be very interesting to explore, for the reasons you brought up. I can imagine a lot of genies being brought to courts over that. Maybe if a genie makes a wish that harms they might bring in the wisher to press charges.

Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

(Anonymous) 2016-07-09 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to say that Terry Pratchett dealt with a lot of this in his Discworld books, but the setting is a world where magic exists openly and always has; it's not like vampires and werewolves and näcken were suddenly revealed as real and various governmental and legal systems are scrambling to decide whether and which "human" rights apply to them and how.
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Re: Post Masquerade Urban Fantasy

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-07-09 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
The biggest thing that comes to mind for me is how police, military, federal police (FBI, MI5, ect.), foreign affairs agencies pick up mage employees. Did they just on them quick-fast? Was there a period of chaos where magical crimes ran rampant before such organizations got their own mages? How long was that period and how much does the fallout of that chaos still remain in the collective memory of society? I imagine that if it was an extended period, then it would cause the growth of anti-magic prejudice.

Actually, now that I think on that aspect, what sort of anti-magic prejudice exists? Are there groups of religiously motivated anti-magic sentiment, as "suffer not a witch to live" sentiments? How strong is it? Is it a big factor or only something in the background?

On the flip-side, how much do magicals dislike non-magicals? Are there some particular magical groups/types who hate non-magicals, maybe as remnant of so long having to hide, and also in reaction to anti-magical prejudice?

In other things, after the masquerade fell, how much new business started with magical people/beings/creatures in mind? I do imagine businesses would crop up everywhere both supplying and supporting magical types, and businesses rendering magical aid to non-magical folk as well.

That's just a few thoughts I have.