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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-20 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3486 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3486 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Maya Rudolph & Martin Short]


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[Hamilton/South Park]


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[John Spencer]


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[Sliders]


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[Daniel Radcliffe]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Dune]


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[Assassin's Creed Syndicate]


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[Mulberry]


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Re: Question about Tumblr

(Anonymous) 2016-07-21 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
So then that would suggest that there's a basic, underlying problem with trying to have a platform that's both usefully communicative and actually, genuinely widely popular?

Re: Question about Tumblr

(Anonymous) 2016-07-21 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
No, that's a leap further than I went that you took on your own.

Being both usefully communicative and popular is possible and a good thing.

Being popular without being usefully communicative leads very easily to echo chambers and false information spreading.

Facebook does a better job of doing both than Tumblr does. Not that FB is chock full of useful information or anything, and misinformation is there too, but it hits all three: more communicative, less echo chambery, and more popular than Tumblr. Speaking on a macro scale not limited to fandom.
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Re: Question about Tumblr

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-07-21 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't mind if there were a fandom blog similar to Facebook. It's not as good as journal-based sites for long discussions but it does pretty much everything else fairly well imo. It gives the insta-sharing gratification that makes Tumblr so popular while still making it possible to comment without sharing, find original posts easily and have a conversation on them, make text/picture/video/gif posts easily (I would like an adjustment for more flexibility in image formatting ofc for a fandom platform), allow you to filter who sees your stuff and which stuff you see without downloading extensions, allows you to organize photos/text posts...

Yeah, take Facebook, tweak it a little, add better image formatting/actual comment nesting (for more than one level)/real profile customization, and boom, you've got a pretty good fandom platform IMO. (Obviously also make it not connected to your real identity Or Else, too.)

Re: Question about Tumblr

(Anonymous) 2016-07-21 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to 'gotcha' you or anything! That's why I asked it as a question.

Where I'm coming from is that you said that the ways in which it's not usefully communicative (echo chamberness) is also one of the drivers of its popularity, because it makes people feel comfortable and safe.

So that would suggest that - at least for some populations / users / uses - there's a tension between those two basic goals: making it less of an echo chamber would make it less comfortable and safe and therefore less appealing. Obviously that tension doesn't exist for all circumstances. For the Facebook use cases, it doesn't exist1. But at least for some use cases, a tradeoff between those functions does exist. And the reason that Tumblr is popular with fandom is because it's less communicative and more comfortable and safe - for the things that fandom wants out of a service, Tumblr is better at delivering them. Which obviously is a problem if you're trying to think about alternate places for fandom to exist that would be better for communication.

Does that make sense, or do you think that I'm totally off base?

(1) I should note that I'm a little skeptical that Facebook actually is much less echo-chambery than Tumblr, but I'll grant the point, it's not really relevant.

Re: Question about Tumblr

(Anonymous) 2016-07-21 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're off base because you don't need an echo chamber in order to feel safe. You need active, responsive staff who make people follow rules. A platform that does not facilitate any conversation at all can lead to the same result but it's not the method we have to follow especially as we give up all the benefits of open civil discussion in order to have that. Does that make more sense?