[ SECRET POST #3486 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3486 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Another bashing thread

[nonnymouscawitz]

I feel like if you view the whole thing through a modern feminist lens and ignore historical context, Rose looks a lot better, actually. But I'll be keeping history in mind on my next watch.

Re: Another bashing thread

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure about that - modern feminism, depending on what version of it we're talking about, might say she could have left the debt and broken away from the family to work in a workhouse and be independent, like you mentioned. Without the historical context in mind, she never had to agree to the engagement or accept it happening. Hence the cheating part. It all kind of depends.

Re: Another bashing thread

[nonnymouscawitz]

Yeah but even in modern times, modern feminism accepts that sometimes people cannot leave situations their parents or an abusive partner set out for them. Even if it took place in 2016, you still have the fact that her mother arranged this and Cal is a violent jerk.

Re: Another bashing thread

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not arguing that Rose isn't a victim. I'm saying through a modern lens where women are expected to have more agency, she could be seen as more responsible instead of less. A modern woman would have been expected to say no to begin with.

I don't think "she knew he was an abuser and couldn't leave" really works as a rationale there. Cal didn't become abusive until halfway through the movie... IIRC after she had already decided to leave and told him she was 'cheating' on him in front of everyone else. So I wouldn't say "she couldn't leave the abuse" because it didn't get abusive until after she had decided to go and announced her plans.

This is not to say Cal wasn't abusive, I just don't think the situation you describe applies from the start.

Re: Another bashing thread

[nonnymouscawitz]

I think it could definitely be seen either way.

I will concede on the abuse point, however.