[ SECRET POST #454 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #454 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 75 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 69

[lanjelin.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with your second point; most of the time characters who are called canon-Sues really aren't.

I do think they can be found in original fiction though. Sometimes characters start out well enough, and then develop in a completely unbelievable way, but I tend to simply call that developing Sue-ish traits (case in point, Anita Blake).

I don't think this is applicable when a character is special in certain ways - many stories depend on it - but rather when they influence people around them in spectacularly strange ways and everybody acts like it's normal and totally expected.

Like with regular Sues, it doesn't really matter how they act or what they do, but how everybody and everything else react to it.

Re: 69

[goat-writer.livejournal.com]

I see where you're coming from, and you certainly have a good point. That's the main reason why I don't even bother with those Sue-tests. What difference will it ultimately make? In the end, it comes down to how well you integrate a character into a story, not superficial BS like what colour their eyes are. You can have a character with violet eyes and glossy, tri-coloured hair named Serendipity for all I care, but as long as her mere presence doesn't make the protagonists (or antagonists) go all googly-eyed and OOC, and she has relatable flaws, then she isn't a Mary Sue.

Re: 69

[lanjelin.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly. Since anime protagonists (and antagonists too, really) tend to have rather spectacular looks, I know not to focus on that point. In fact, Yuugi (of Yu-Gi-Oh!) does have violet eyes and hair that at least appears to have three colours! He manages not to be Sue-ish anyway, and that's quite a feat when considering that he's also harbouring a 3000 year old spirit of a Pharaoh in his body...

Re: 69

[goat-writer.livejournal.com]

On a somewhat related note: I love Yuugi. I never even noticed how stereotypically Sueish his appearance is until you pointed it out. If he were a woman, he would have legions of fans crying 'Sue.

Re: 69

[lanjelin.livejournal.com]

Yuugi is amazing and adorable, and I love him. ♥

If he were a woman, he would have legions of fans crying 'Sue.

I don't know about that, actually; sure if he'd been a female side character with that appearance, maybe? I still doubt he'd been given any character development or trials to go through if he'd been female, though. It's usually the fate of the female characters in adventure manga. *is slightly bitter*