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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-04 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #455 ]


⌈ Secret Post #455 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 0 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #065.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 - wtf ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

21, 25, 30, 43, 55, 61, 61, 64

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
21. IN THE TIMELINE OF SLASH, KIRK/SPOCK CAME FIRST. SORRY. :|

25. Haha that is pretty pedo wow.

30. Clearly, no thin people could ever think that being OVERLY thin is bad. :|

43. HAHAHA GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. :| Uwaa, world is scared of bis, so terrible~ please DIAF and come back once you've experienced more of a hate crime than just a warning for fucking shoujo-ai.

55. /cgl/ >:|

61. ARGH GOD WHY WON'T HE JUST GO AWAY

62. You forgot "in b4 forehead"

64. AUGH AUGH AUGH NO AUGH SEEN IT IN REAL LIFE. AUGH. AUGH.

Re: 43

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I've never undrestood why certain forms of bigotry could somehow be all right because there are worse out there. There will always be something worse. Some one shouted insults after you in the strest? So what, some people get kicked in the head for being bi. You've been kicked in the head for being bi? So what, there are places where you'll be executed for it...

Why not start fighting the bigotry where you find it?

Re: 43

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
...the point really wasn't about THAT it was about the point that fucking warning for shoujo-ai is to warn for people who might not want to READ it I mean come on. Not everyone is going to want to read the shoujo-ai shit that doesn't mean they're HOMOPHOBES.

Clearly I made my point badly but I GET ANNOYED AT ALL THE ~OMGGAY~ SHIT IN F!S SOMETIMES.

Re: 43

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
That's why you put it as a label, not a warning. There's nothing abnormal about being homo-or bisexual, and using ordinary labels helps people to percieve it that way.

I don't believe that people who don't want to read slash are usually homophobes; they're just not interested. In the same vein, I don't believe that people who use slash/yaoi a warnings are bigots or homophobes; they're just not thinking about what they're doing, and are influenced by a society that in some ways is still prejudiced in such a way that the bigotry seems normal.

Re: 43

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I would want to be warned about dicks in my face. Also, being homo- or bisexual is actually not the norm so really if you want to get down to it...it could be...abnormal.

Let's not fucking act like we have some right to BAAAAAAWWWWW about the term "warning". Seriously, if someone's WRITING IT and they put that warning on it, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT PREJUDICED and mincing fucking words just makes us look like oversensitive pansies with a victim complex.

Re: 43

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I would want to be warned about dicks in my face.

It's really hard for them to reach through the computer screen, though.

Also, being homo- or bisexual is actually not the norm so really if you want to get down to it...it could be...abnormal.

I'm sure you realise that I'm not talking about statistics here. But to be clear: it's just as "right" to be homo-or bisexual as to be heterosexual.

Let's not fucking act like we have some right to BAAAAAAWWWWW about the term "warning".

Why not? Making people realise that sexual preference really isn't something that should be warned for (as I said earlier; labelling for genre and/or pairing makes it clear wether it's slash/yaoi or not anyway) is a step in the right direction. Why not remark upon it?

Seriously, if someone's WRITING IT and they put that warning on it, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT PREJUDICED

No, as I said, they're usually just influenced by a prejudiced society, and not prejudiced themselves. I think they's actually welome an opportunity to validate what they're writing about.

mincing fucking words just makes us look like oversensitive pansies with a victim complex.

Yeah, it might look like that. But to make things better, one has to sometimes accept that people will yell at you, swear at you, call you a bloody fool (or worse), and view you in a generally unfavourable light. What's more important, though? Looking good, or doing the right thing?

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Re: 43

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
...you're probably the type who thinks gay pride parades are a good thing, aren't you.

My point is that mincing words is not doing the right thing. Correcting a kid who outright calls something a "fag"? Right. Whining about a "warning" for girls-love fanfiction? Mincing words.

I'm sick of fucking victim-complex-having homosexuals who feel like the entire world is out to get them and need to make a point about how HARD it is being GAY and how PREJUDICED SOCIETY IS and blah blah fucking blah. I'm not saying that homosexuals shouldn't fight for equal rights, I'm just saying that they need to stop being so goddamn butthurt while doing it.

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-04-04 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I read 21's secret as meaning "I slashed Angry Beavers before I slashed anything else" not "I slashed Angry Beavers before slash existed."

Re: 21

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I did a little too but the Kirk/Spock is just on a completely different level and so I got defensive >:T

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-04-05 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Holmes&Watson were around way before Kirk/Spock.

And I did slash the beavers first, I wasn't saying they came 'round first.