[ SECRET POST #3493 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3493 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 22 secrets from Secret Submission Post #499.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/vyAd2Tm.png

[(Anonymous)]

I can't speak to this secret since I'm not familiar with Tolkien beyond being read the books as a child and seeing the films, but "Why don't you write it?" is the laziest excuse people throw at other fans who desire further exploration in their favorite stories.

Yes, I could write it (and I have done so in the past), but that doesn't mean I would have fun writing it, enjoy writing it, be good at writing it, for feel accomplished when I was finished; considering the fact that I prefer spending my time on other outlets than writing fanfiction.

[diet_poison]

It's also a way to shout down some really legit and interesting secrets.

It's ok to not want to write something and still wish it existed. It's not like wishing that means ordering authors to write it.

[ninety6tears]

I'm not familiar with anything outside of the main LOTR stuff but this sounds intriguing.

[swamp_adder]

I was just thinking about this the other day. It's interesting how Tolkien dwelt on Elrond's grief at losing his daughter to mortality without ever mentioning that he'd already lost his twin the same way.

[(Anonymous)]

I always kind of wondered exactly what Elros's motivation was. Did he always "feel human" like Earendil did, and choose humanity because it was in his nature to do so? Or did he sacrifice his immortality as an "exchange" for being able to found Numenor and act as a proper mortal human king to his people?

I also really strongly headcanon that a huge part of Elrond's character development into such a compassionate, wise, accepting person who was such an irreplaceable and loyal ally to humankind came from his experience of having his twin brother live as a human and eventually age and die.

[swamp_adder]

Maybe he just wanted the Gift of Men -- because he thought death preferable to "fading", or because he believed Ilúvatar had a special fate in mind for Men.

[(Anonymous)]

I was not aware of this but now I'm desperate for more too, especially considering I'm a twin.

[(Anonymous)]

I too would love to read more of it. Here's a pretty good one:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1189998/1/Dies-Irae

[diet_poison]

I love twin stories. <3

[(Anonymous)]

Twin stories are one of my favorite things ever, and stories where the two twins' paths (especially identical twins, which I'm sure they were) split dramatically are the very best of all. :)

Also, there is something so dramatically powerful about the image of one twin never aging and living on for all eternity, while the other twin lives and dies and has children who live and die, and grandchildren and great-grandchildren ad infinitum who live and die as well, all the spans of their lives, millennia in, millennia out, running parallel to the life of their zillion-times-removed uncle. It's like holding two vastly different versions of immortality side-by side - the immortality of a single individual's flesh and memory, and the immortality of cultural heritage and genetic lineage.

And I have so many feelings about the fifteen Dunedain Elrond fostered and educated in their youth, and cared for in their old age, up to Aragorn. Not to mention the unnaturally-strong genetics that seem to bulldoze all other physical traits into dark-hair-grey-eyes even after 6,000 years. Even so many generations of Dunedain down, does Elrond ever notice that this one's eyes look just like Elros's, that this other one's smile looks just like Elros's, that this one's chin looks almost like Elros's, but not quite, maybe it's just a coincidence...? Do any of them ever look at Elrond and feel startled by how something about him reminds them of their father, or uncle, or sister?

[diet_poison]

Your immortality parallel commentary is really cool!!

[(Anonymous)]

The part that I always wanted to know more about is, how did Elrond feel about the Numenorians? It's horrible enough to have his twin brother die and go to a different afterlife and be parted from him until the end of the world. But at least he left Elrond with the comfort that by being mortal, Elros was able to do something as amazing as found Numenor and establish this amazing hopeful great independent human nation of peace and wisdom and prosperity, and that his brother died happily with this knowledge.

How much more horrific and devastating must it have been to then have to watch Numenor and Elros's great-great-great grandchildren (Elrond's great-great-great nephews and nieces!) slowly became tyrannical and greedy and corrupt assholes over the centuries and watch Numenor sink and drown almost all its inhabitants and see almost everything his brother gave up his immortality for be destroyed?

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The idea of Elrond and Elros was one of my favourites, especially when I got into the fandom in '04. I think there is still a bit of fondness for them, even now, but there's a lot of other factors as well.

The factor about Elrond that facinates me more these days is how he felt about the actions of his parents and ancestors. I did read a fic, possibly on AO3, where Elrond and Elros meet up and decide who will take which ancestral sword, and Elrond did not want Elwing's sword because he still felt bitter about how she basically abandoned the pair of them. This was set very early in the Second Age, and he would not get solid information about them being alive in Valinor until the Istari and Glorfindel came to Middle Earth at the start of the Third Age.

That's what I wish to read more of, how do the twins feel about their parents? Do they have mixed feelings about the Second Sack of Doriath, the loss of Eluréd and Elurín or do they understand how much Maedhros was upset about that and was trying to make up for it a little by taking them into his care? How do they feel about Beren and Lúthien? What do they think about Thingol and how he kept the Silmaril? How Dior kept it leading into the Second Sack?

I know my writing, I also know how likely I am to get a fanfic finished. I want to see other people write it because I want to see how they think it through differently to me (my writing would also be heavily influenced by RP ideas, while other writers would write more canon-compliant).