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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-31 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3497 ]


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ninety6tears: jim w/ red bground (americans: e/p)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-07-31 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It's good to make people question by contrast how much more common it is for men to take over the main roles, but I think the expectation that feminist=only about women goes towards placing more of the onus on women to break out of their oppressive stereotypes than on men to do literally anything different other than be conveniently out of the picture.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-07-31 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting point. There are definitely things that can't be fixed just by getting rid of male characters.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-01 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Oh noes, we wouldn't want poor, weak, helpless women to have the onus on them! That would be terrible indeed.
ninety6tears: nyota - yellow profile (trek: uhura)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2016-08-01 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
So men should remain entitled violent and emotionally stifled messes because sexism is entirely a woman's problem (invented by us, many would say) and women need to constantly prove how badass they can be to get respect? Cause that's all I hear when people default to emphasizing that women and woman characters need to be different in order to change anything.
Edited 2016-08-01 03:29 (UTC)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-08-01 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only that, but I mean, I want to see guys writing about breaking out of bullshit gender roles and having more honest relationships too, you know? I mean, sometimes, I get really fucking sick of the whole 'bromance' thing where two guys make jokes about how gay they must be because they're friends. I want to shout, "JUST OWN IT, GUYS. You don't have to make uncomfortable giggly remarks about how gay it must be, being actual friends who TALK about things of substance, JUST HAVE A GODDAMN FRIEND FOR CHRISSAKE."

I mean, GOD. I don't have a clue how straight men act, being trans and gay, but if having any sort of emotional closeness or friendship is 'gay', I seriously don't know how they have any sort of social lives at all! (Though it gives me a crushingly depressing insight to my poor younger brother's behavior... yeesh.)