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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-07-31 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3497 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-07-31 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think for me it is more that there are characters who matter and they are women, as there are so many shows where the primary focus is male characters. I mean, looking at the CW, there is Supernatural, Flash, and Arrow, which are very much about the guys. And even iZombie, which has the female as a lead, has pretty much every other character that matters being a guy. It's not that I need everyone to be a girl, but having girls make up a huge chunk of people who are impactful on a show is definitely a positive. Maybe someday when it is more balanced, I won't feel like something like this is a selling point. But right now it is to me. I need more show to balance out the guy-heavy shows in my life. (Like look at procedural where the formula seems to be that you can have one girl for every two guys. Don't you even dare consider having the ratio reversed.) I haven't seen Reign, as I don't tend to care for the more relationship-based rather than plot-based shows, but I might have to give it a try.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-07-31 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely understand why it's a selling point. It just occurred me that I don't see a lot of things being described as feminist because of the way the male and female characters interact or anything like that. It's usually the lack of men. It's not that it's not positive in the context of all the other movies out there that are male-dominated, it's that there are other positives that I don't feel like I hear about as much.

(Anonymous) 2016-07-31 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I do hear about positive male/female interactions making for a feminist show on occasion. Such as with shows like The 100. When that started, I heard a lot about how the male and female characters seemed to be of equal agency and interacted well. But, again, we first need plenty of shows where the male and female characters are of equal agency and interact well. And that usually isn't the case. In the vast majority of shows out there, the male characters have much more agency. Just look how in fandom spaces the bromances and male slash ships are so celebrated. And that is a common complaint from people in fandom. That they can't ship female characters because there just aren't enough of them in most shows and movies.

I would love for a day when for every male-dominated show, there was a female-dominated one, and for there to be tons of shows like BSG, and The 100, and Warehouse 13 where the male and the female characters were of equal interest and agency. Instead I see a lot more Flashes, and Supernaturals, and Arrows, and Avengers, and Star Treks, and etc. etc. etc. continuing in the future, such that the shows with strong/predominant female characters are considered noteworthy and feminist.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2016-08-01 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I hadn't heard that about The 100. I should probably put it higher up on my To-Watch list.