[ SECRET POST #456 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #456 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 18 pages, 439 secrets from Secret Submission Post #066.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

45

[shadsie.livejournal.com]

45. I've not gotten myself into FMA active fandom, but I've only seen the anime and the movie - can't spare the money to buy all the manga, I'm afraid. For the last couple of years, I've saved my "manga money" for only one series - which is why I'm replying to you, as I've experienced similar in fandom.

As most who've seen my name around know, I'm a huge Trigun fan. This includes the Trigun Maximum manga, but FANDOM nearly turned me off the manga. Many people I encountered who were "Trigun Maximum fans" were very condesending toward those who had only seen the Trigun anime or preffered the anime.

There were some circles where even saying "I like both equally" would get you condescended to, treated like you had no taste and no brain in your head - like you couldn't appreciate the "OMG! So deep!" storyline of Maximum...

I went into reading the manga with some resentment - then it turned out I liked the art and the story (I like both the anime and manga equally now). But at several points in my fandom, I held a lot of *resentment* for the manga, even as I read it, because of the behavior of its more rabid fans.

That seems to have died down considerably in the current fandom - perhaps because some things that "only happened in the anime" turned out to happen in the manga, or maybe because of the recent manga ending, which turned out to be just as question-inducing as the anime's. In any case, I can enjoy both canons in peace now.

I guess I'm saying is that I feel your pain and to try not to let let the idiocy of some fans turn you off something you might find enjoyable.

Re: 45

[pikabot]

Personally, I've heard that the manga has a better story, but to be honest I can't be arsed with it. I've tried reading it, but when I did, I discovered that Nightow cannot draw a fight scene worth a shit, and stopped after a few volumes.

Re: 45

[shadsie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the fight scenes are very confusing, especially in the first volumes, but they get better. The whole art style of the manga gets better the further along it goes. Considering that Nightow worked on it for 10 years, well, I'd hope my drawing style would improve after 10 years of doing something, too.

Eh, the story - it depends upon who you ask, actually. There are a lot of people who will happily say that the manga has a better story, and some who won't. I think the advantage of the anime is that it stayed pretty concise, it kept to a few core themes and didn't stray too much. The manga, on the other hand... well, there's a point at which it feels much more like a sci-fi space opera than a dusty space western and I've met people in the fandom who found that jarring. In fact, a friend of mine uses "Jumped the Midvalley" as a Trigun specific "Jump the Shark" for the point at which he found the manga less enjoyable.

It just depends on who you ask.

Re: 45

[llivla.livejournal.com]

After hearing so many comments I must seriously live under a rock in the FMA fandom, because I've never heard of anything like this before, and I want to say how sorry I am Trigun was nearly ruined for you because of fanbrats. D: Maybe I'm just in denial/believe the two FMA's are/n't related at all, but look at them for what they are: separate animals and technically separate creators, since the manga-ka signed off on the anime but ultimately it became someone else's idea. And that idea developed faster than the manga, and eventually gave a different/parallel idea so our poor Arakawa-ka could have one less thing to worry about. D:

*way too philosophical/optimistic for fandom I guess*

Anyway, as a fellow Trigun fan (I saw the anime first--Cartoon Network adult swim one night when GW wasn't on; not all of us get random 'new manga!' notices in the paper :'D)

Re: 45

[shadsie.livejournal.com]

I've been a fan since 2001, before it was on Adult Swim, but, I, too, found the anime first (back in those days, the anime was released in the US on tape, but the manga was still a mystical Japanse thing that only the very few Japanese-literate got to read, leaving me out until translations became available).

Actually, there have been a LOT of things about Trigun fandom that almost ruined it for me. There was the manga elitism, as I've described, there were the shipper wars and yaoi vs. het, a little sub vs dub (but probably not as much as most animes because Johnny Yong Bosh is awesome), even (mildly, for a little bit) fluff vs. darkfic writers...

Not to mention having a good friend in the fandom who kind of betrayed me and getting my wanky self on Fandom Wank more than once...

Lots of stuff to ruin the fandom for me, yet, I stuck around. I don't know if it's been a resolve to "not let those people win" or if it's just because I love the characters and world(s) that much. I think it's the latter, and the genuinely FUN fans I've found.

From where I am now, the fandom seems to have been "culled" of most of the wank (correlating with its dwindling popularity). But it's been a weird fandom for something based on Love and Peace.