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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-05 05:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3502 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3502 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. http://i.imgur.com/pFIrfng.png
[linked for animated / underage? nudity]


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04. [SPOILERS for Voltron: Legendary Defender]



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05. [SPOILERS for Pokemon Sun and Moon]



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06. [SPOILERS for xmen apocalypse]



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07. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]
















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(Anonymous) 2016-08-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
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I'm a little confused, are you kind of insinuating that trans women 'perform' when they wear female gendered clothing and makeup? :/ It certainly seems to sound that way.

I know lots of trans women. I'm a trans guy. I'm currently dating a trans woman. I know exactly zero binary trans women (and tbh zero non-binary trans feminine people) that wouldn't want hormones and at least a more neutral or femme style of clothing at the very least for the feminizing aspects, and they're all interested in some way in 'performative' female gendered clothing and makeup.

I'm not saying there couldn't be a trans woman out there that is totally okay with being perceived as male on the outside, and I must admit I'm not familiar with this series so while I think I get the gist of "they've been in her head so they see her as the girl she is", it could have some nuance I'm missing, but all I'm trying to say is that this would be a rather strange stance to take because it's vanishingly rare even in the trans community. I would be a little suspicious if a cartoon of all places decided to tackle something as nuanced as the difference between presentation and the gender you identify as, especially for a character that has canonically been "outed".

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-06 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
you used the same word in "performative female gendered clothing and makeup" yourself, even if you put performative in quotation marks, so I think you get exactly what ayrt meant.

you're reading bad intent into this where there is none. everyone performs their gender in some way or another. "gender performativity" is a term that has been established since the 80s.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-06 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The other anon got it right. You should know there's a lot of stress involved in what you want to look like/be like vs. what you're expected to want to look like or be like.

So while Pidge isn't unusually "masculine" in the show, she's a girl who's into robots and dresses in t-shirt and pants which are both things plenty of cis girls get gender-policed for. So that was all I'm getting at, I mean wasn't even a particularly vile subset of gamergate attacking trans women in the gaming community as proof that they couldn't be real women because they liked video games? Which is utterly ridiculous, but...

So that's all I was saying, she wouldn't feel the need to act any differently around her friends because they saw her pretending to be a boy and still knew she was a girl so she doesn't have to go out of her way to try to act stereotypically "girly" and can be herself.