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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-09 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #3506 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3506 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-09 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
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But.... trying to convince people that they're just like you and they understand you in order to get you to buy things is how marketing works?? It's naive to say Taylor Swift doesn't do it when that's how the whole industry is. She's not the special case that's immune and honest, I promise you.

She sings about things people can relate to and that's great, but it's not by convenient accident they downplay or don't mention all the things that make her different that are impossible to achieve by people not born lucky. That's not calling her a liar, that's calling her savvy about sales.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's not lying, because it's accurately reflecting a commonality that doesn't exist. OP's argument appears to be that there's no commonality whatsoever, but that Swift or her people present her in a way that ignores this fact and misleads viewers. OP is basically talking like fans are a bunch of idiots who Taylor Swift is taking advantage of. That's what I disagree with.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-10 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I read OP's argument as saying the commonality is slim but they play that up and ignore the rest in order to sell albums. Which they do like the whole industry does, and music fans all over the world constantly fall for this. Which, depending on how predatory or benign you consider that, could be bad or not so bad.

Only said in a more vitriolic manner.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
No, that isn't my argument. You're deliberately choosing to interpret it in the most negative light, even if that means putting words in my mouth. Where did I say her fans were idiots? Ah, nowhere. You've been doing this from the beginning and it's quite puzzling. This whole persecution of Taylor Swift and/or her fans is entirely of your own manufacture, not mine.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I might be misinterpreting you but I assure you it's an entirely sincere misinterpretation.

You said that she sells records by convincing people (especially young women) that she's just like them, and then list a ton of reasons why she's not actually just like them. To me, if she has to convince people that she's just like them to sell records, that implies that she would sell significantly fewer records otherwise. Which then implies that people buy her records, in large part, because they're unaware that she's wealthy (those being the things that you think she has to hide).

I'm really being serious here: which part of that am I wrong about? What am I missing about your argument?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I think I've already covered pretty much everything you're missing, every single time you've accused me of saying something nasty about Taylor Swift or her fans and I pointed out that actually, I haven't. It's all in your head. I get that she gets a lot of undeserved flack, but I think maybe you're carrying some baggage that you're unaware you're carrying, and while you may not mean to be super defensive... well, you are. Nobody's said half the negative things about her that you've dreamed up on your own, and yet you still see Taylor Swift bogeymen everywhere. I don't think any amount of logic or patiently directing you to reread what I actually wrote is going to help at this point.