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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-12 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3509 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3509 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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["Fangirl" by Rainbow Rowell (with a mention of "Carry On" by Rainbow Rowell)]


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05. [SPOILERS for The Lunar Chronicle]



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06. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Cursed Child]



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07. [SPOILERS for Stranger Things]



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08. [SPOILERS for FMA]



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09. [WARNING for non-con, RPF?]

[Supernatural]


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10. [WARNING for rape, suicide]















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(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
JK didn't write it! She just signed off on it! Also, you can be a *good* person, who fights on the right side but is jerk or evil or does it for the wrong reasons. Having a legacy for doing a good thing doesn't mean you did nothing but good things. Snape was a twisted, resentful old man, who was obsessively in love with a woman who didn't return it, who changed sides due to being partly responsible for her death, while not caring about any other deaths caused by Voldemort or other death eaters as he didn't care about *them*. He did some good things that were overshadowed by the many, little, shitty things we see him do over the course of the books.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah Snape being mean to Neville definitely overshadows him working to save Harry for seven years and dying to save the wizarding world from Voldemort.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
He almost murdered Neville's pet in front of him because he flubbed a spell

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, forgot Snape was only mean to Neville. Not that he also picked on Hermione and Harry, screwing over their education...never mind any other classes we don't see where he could be harassing other students. You make it sound like he just made the odd comment about Neville, when he was systemically bullying him in *every* lesson for 5 years straight, using his pet to experiment on, when he knew that due to his bullying, Neville didn't learn or have the confidence to make potions correctly, only to blame Neville for it......yeah, sounds like a real great guy otherwise. This is a guy who invented his own Dark spells that cut people so badly they could bleed to death in short order as a teen.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
He invented his own dark spells because he was repeatedly harassed, sexually assaulted and almost killed by a group of sociopaths who hated him because "he exists".

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
........no, it's made fairly obvious he was always into the Dark Arts and his potions book shows he was always fairly clever and had a mind that liked to work things out and improve things. If he designed it because of the Mauraders, why never use it on them? And it's also stated Snape invented the 'hang you from your ankle' spell, so he must have been the one to start using it on people (if that's what your sexually assaulted bit is aimed at, so he's the one who was 'sexually assaulting' people first). Snape was no saint at school. And even if he was harassed just for existing by a bunch of griffydors, well, he was in another house, and it's still hardly an excuse to invent spells that can cause multiple slash wounds to people and kill them in short order unless there are people near by who know how to heal magical wounds and deal with blood loss.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you really trying to defend all of the horrible things that the Marauders did to Snape because Snape (who had no friends or people to look out for him) retaliated in response? That''s saying if bullies pick on someone and then the person tries to fight back then they're all equally responsible.

And there is no evidence Snape ever used the levicorpus spell on someone to expose their underwear and humiliate them in front of everyone.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Sirius says th levicorpus spell was a fad and everyone was using it, so it's hardly like James and Sirius singled out Snape and he was the only one this happened to. If Snape invented it, how else would anyone else know about it, unless he used it first? I can easily see him using it in the house common room to show off and them demanding he teach them all it, queue him repeated hanging multiple slytherins up by their ankles. And I do think inventing a spell as dangerous as the one Harry used against Malfoy that almost killed him, and using it against bullies would definitely be overcompensation given how many other spells existed, without needing to be invented. Yes, Snape was bullied and a weird kid, but that doesn't justify killing people in retailiation. And I never defended any of what the mauraders did, I'm saying what we see happen. Snape invented Dark spells, in school, as a teenager, spells that ended up being used by a lot of his class mates. Imagine what else he could have invented or potions improved upon.

It's also stated Lily was his friend until he called her a mudblood, and he also hung around with others in Slytherin who would later become Death Eaters.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
You're basically making a lot of assumptions at this points as opposed to what the books actually state. There was nothing in the books to suggest Snape as a teen bullied others unprovoked with his spells.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I never said that, I said he invented it, so must have been the one to spread it to others. Unless you think he left his precious textbook with all his notes in lying around for anyone to read and copy spells out of?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, the books don't say. Maybe he shared it with a Slytherin and it went off from there.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
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So Snape had no friends or people to look out for him but was happy spreading his invented spells around to these non-friends who gave no fucks about him? That seems very in-character. Can't you keep even your own understandings of canon straight?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
He fell into a crowd of bad people looking for acceptance but it's clear no one really gave a shit about him or else Lily wouldn't have been the only one to stick up for him when James and his band of assholes sexually assaulted him. Not exactly that hard to comprehend.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
And it's somehow more believable that Snape (who no one even knew was called the Half-Blood Prince) shared his Prince spells with these non-friends, than that James et al picked up his spells from seeing Snape use them himself? Sure Jan.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-13 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
If he was looking for acceptance which is one of the main reasons why he fell in with them? Yes...?

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
lol yeah that's all, Snape was just a little bit mean to Neville. Otherwise, totally a great guy. lmao

(Anonymous) 2016-08-12 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
He wasn't even that old. He was, what, in his thirties or early forties? In a world where wizards live to 100+ easy. He was a twisted, resentful relatively young man still stuck in the war from his teenage years and still acting out his teenage grudges.

That said, I still adore him, because spies/double agents/deep cover agents are my jam, and so are amazingly horrible people who manage to simultaneously be amazing courageous and determined.
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[personal profile] iggy 2016-08-13 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
He would have been only thirty-one when he started teaching Harry and only thirty-eight when he died. Not at all old.

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[personal profile] analise 2016-08-13 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think people think of him as old because of the movies' portrayal. Or because Snape is introduced from a kid's perspective and everybody over thirty seems old when you're eleven.
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[personal profile] iggy 2016-08-13 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, definitely regarding the kid's perspective. But honestly... the movie casting does bug me a lot. Far from me to belittle Alan Rickman's (rip) acting, because he did a great job with the material he was given, but possibly the greatest tragedy of the Marauders era characters is that they'd really just begun their lives, and the movies royally missed that.