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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-13 03:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #3510 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3510 ⌋

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[Stephen King]


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[John Green]


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[American Gods]


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[Charlie Hunnam in King Arthur: Legend of the Sword]


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[Penn & Teller: Fool Us]


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[Steven Universe]


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[Questionable Content]


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[Ghostbusters 2016]











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Watch Star Trek Deep Space Nine and you'll see it in Garak and Bashir!

(Anonymous) 2016-08-14 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
The relationship between Julian Bashier and Elim Garak is a prime example of queerbaiting.

AFAIK the writers didn't like the fans reading into Garak and Bashir as becoming a gay couple, so they wrote the characters going from best friends to barely interacting.

I also heard that Alexander Siddig(Bashir) started phoning in his character instead of putting his all into it because he was upset about that change.

Re: Watch Star Trek Deep Space Nine and you'll see it in Garak and Bashir!

(Anonymous) 2016-08-14 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
isn't that the opposite of queerbaiting? from the way you describe the situation, it sounds like they had no intention of including gay subtext in the characters' relationship and deliberately began to write the characters differently once they found out that people were (from their POV) misinterpreting the friendship. that sounds more like queer repelling than baiting.

Re: Watch Star Trek Deep Space Nine and you'll see it in Garak and Bashir!

(Anonymous) 2016-08-14 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

It's a little more complicated than that even, because a lot of the reason the relationship comes across so gay on screen is because of how it's acted - in particular, Andrew Robinson is almost explicitly playing it gay - so you have a situation where the creative process itself is more complicated.

That said, it's not like Andrew Robinson made the idea up out of whole cloth. Those themes did exist in the characters, and it's kind of shameful how hard the writers ran away from it once they saw how it was played.