[ SECRET POST #3516 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3516 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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The entire rest of this post is either spoilers or have content warnings.





02. [SPOILERS for Over the Hills and Far Away]



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03. [SPOILERS for Pokemon Sun and Moon]



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04. [SPOILERS for Inside]



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05. [SPOILERS for The Girl With All The Gifts]



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06. [SPOILERS for Steven Universe]
[WARNING for suicide]



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07. [WARNING for non-con]



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08. [WARNING for incest]




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09. [WARNING for suicide]












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Comments

[crossy_woad]

A lot of people agree with you, including me. Showing the "nobility" of suicide for people who can't live "normal" lives seems super fucked up. Too close to the whole fucking eugenics movement too...

I know people can overdo the whole "what is the world coming to, if this happens then everything goes to hell" but there's a certain aspect of it that is really, deeply troubling.

Assisted suicide, and glorified suicide, are very very problematic. Should we also glorify suicide for developmentally abled people because they "drain" society? It's very morbid.

My parents had a handicapped child before they had me. They were told by the doctors to just put her in a home and try again. (As fucked up as that sounds, nowawadays they mostly abort people with her condition.)

But her life has so far been valuable and fairly happy, and she's far exceeded any predictions about her abilites, too. She doesn't live as a vegetable in some home, forgotten and unloved. My parents didn't follow that "professional" advice, and they're very glad they didn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but then some people have terminal diseases that result in constant pain. Or ones that will end with them becoming bed ridden with no idea who they are.

Why should those people have to suffer because of other people's delicate sensibilities?

[crossy_woad]

Well if someone decides their life should end because they are in constant pain...that should be their very own decision not something pushed onto them by others or encouraged by society because they don't have "quality of life." Suicide is NEVER something that should be pushed or encouraged on people, bc what about the vulnerable people who have depression and pain...and would be far better off to get help for both rather than just kill themselves? (I'm talking as someone who's experienced BOTH.) I don't think it's delicate sensibilities to say this is some serious shit.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think a movie is going to push people to suicide??

[crossy_woad]

IDK. I think it's a bad trend when the message is repeated often enough in movies...and a lot of people feel that way, if you've read some of the coverage of it. People are tired of being told their lives aren't worth living if they're disabled.

But I'm done with this discussion now.

[(Anonymous)]

How many movies say this? One every 8-9 years? Not exactly a message that is repeated a lot.

da

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just conveyed in movies though. I've seen this attitude showed constantly in different ways a lot. A lot of subtler ways as well as bigger ones.

I see this attitude a lot in the reactions to parents killing children with autism or Down's or other developmental disorder. A whole lot of "but you have to understand how hard it was for the parent" and excuses for why it isn't a shitty thing to do to a child because of the parents' suffering.

That's just one example. But you know sometimes when you're disabled it's easier to see all the different ways this attitude is present in society to people like you.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

That's trying to make excuses for an outside person though. This is about the decisions of an individual on themselves.

[diet_poison]

People are constantly taking about how media influences our culture, perceptions, etc. - do you object every time someone brings anything like this up?

[(Anonymous)]

at least in the book of me before you everyone is trying to push him to live, not to die. no one wants suicide as an option in that book except for the disabled person.