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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-20 03:24 pm

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-20 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
In my experience it's definitely the guys who announce their genders more. It's kind of become "expected", for a twofold reason I think. One is because lots of times in fandom "Actual Real Gay Men" are invoked as a reason for or against switching, which is why I think OP was being clearly tongue-in-cheek (if the All Capital Name didn't clue me in, the silly commentary definitely did haha), and two because I think in certain circles it's become kind of cliche that "oh you're just a cis girl complaining about this, what experience do YOU have with it?"

So it's kind of a sexism against women in fandom thing, and a weird Gay Tokenism thing. But yeah, most of the people I know who complain about it are women who I know personally, or when I see it in the wild it's usually a cis woman's profile.

In the end I don't think it really matters to be honest, I don't think that gay men presume that slash is All For Them, but with the weird quasi "I'm an ALLY see!?" that's cropped up in some circles, and how to different people slash means different things ("I'm doing it for represnetation" "I'm doing it because I find it hot" "I'm doing it because I'm queer too, and I like my fan words queer!", add a million more reasons onto this), it's just become A Thing a bit. Obviously I might be a little biased because I definitely agree with OP's complaints, but I also think his points would have been just as valid if they had come out with "As an Actual Lesbian Woman", because ultimately I just think that was a bit of tongue in cheek plus they wanted to note that in their experience (and in mine in the gay community being honest), vers is much, much more common and accepted than it is in slash fandom, which has...let's be real, kind of a complex about it at times (looking at you Supernatural!).