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[The Sims]

(Image: some Sim toddlers)
It baffles me how toddlers in The Sims can't have the bookworm trait. I can't have been the only three year old bookworm.

You weren't alone, nonny. I was a toddler bookworm too.

Me 3.

Re: Transcript by OP

iceyred - 2016-08-21 20:32 (UTC) - Expand

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arcadiaego - 2016-08-22 22:49 (UTC) - Expand

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I, my spouse and both our kids ditto.

It also me.

And I was reading tough books, not the cutesy-poo kiddie books because I got screamed at that "those are for babies".

Same here.

You weren't, OP.

It's rare as hell though. You'll find some children reading by age 2, but it's such an incredibly small percentage of the population that the game's creators probably didn't even think to add it.

I'm skeptical of any 2-year-old ever reading. Maybe recognizing letters, but reading? Got any links to that?

Well, uh, not on hand. Google hyperlexia. I'm not sure there has actually been a lot of real data collected; at best you might find a few recent case studies and fMRI research. I assure you though, it's a real thing.

Full disclosure: I was reading when I was two. It wasn't novels, it was words and eventually very simple sentences. I did read my first novel by the time I was 4, just before entering elementary school- it was The Neverending Story, and it took me nearly three months to get through it.

I could even write before three. Sure, very crude capital letters and with some help, but it exists.

I actually was not a bookworm, but I could read and write functionally well before going into primary school.

I'm guessing no 2-year old's going to be reading novels, but things like reading large print letters on shops and shops? It's a minority, but it exists.

My two-and-a-half year old niece reads individual words. I don't think she's up to sentences yet.

Aww, now I miss TS3...I only have TS4 with me/on my computer, and I like it, but I miss the toddlers... :(

It's pretty rare. Most kids don't learn how to read until they start school (so ages 5 to 7).
I can see why they wouldn't include it... I know it's only a game, but Sims is one of those rare games where the positive feedback centers around how everything is so reminiscent of real life. The more realistic, the better.

You can use cheats or find a mod for it if you like? If there isn't one, it shouldn't take too much effort to create one yourself. In the older games at least. From my understanding modding skills in the newest sims is a bit more complicated.

I'd think 3 would be extremely rare, and even the 3-year-olds who "read" I imagine are mostly looking at pictures, turning pages, enjoying being read to, and parroting the story as they remember it. (though in all fairness I suppose that can qualify as "bookworm", that is, someone who enjoys books, even if they aren't truly reading them) Certainly recognizing letters and such is possible by that age, though. It wouldn't be until 4-5 that you see the earliest kids start basic reading - closer to 6. At least English reading, which is hard because there are so many possible sounds that letters can make and it isn't intuitively phonetic.

*my experience volunteering in an early learning center

I was reading simple things by myself at 3. And reading novels at 4. It's rare, but it does happen.

One of my cousins by the time he was three and a half he had taught himself to read from his older brother's (educational) computer games and was very capable of reading 'The Tailor of Gloucester' by Beatrix Potter to me (which is not one of the easier Beatrix Potter books!)

I realise he is the exception rather than the rule though. And he is still very, very clever at 16. My own son is just three and his nursery teachers are impressed he can recognise numbers up to 12 and maybe a third of the alphabet.

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I remember reading at three, though it was a Chinese comics collection book... I distinctly remember reading it because I got one of the words wrong and couldn't figure out the logic of the sentence.

In before this thread turns into a boast thread of being two year old bookworms

you missed that by a mile. but good for trying; people just can't wait to talk about how special they or their offspring are.

hint: bookworm doesn't mean they can sound out words with the help of an adult. You weren't a bookworm at 2 and 3 people.

op

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arcadiaego - 2016-08-22 22:50 (UTC) - Expand

That art is so uncanny. -.-

I honestly don't remember when I learned to read to be quite honest, because I have VERY few memories from before... well... HS I guess? Like I remember one or two things from ages nine to twelve but couldn't tell you the exact age I was, and half a dozen from birth to nine.

I do know it was before I started school though, because my grandfather taught us (he was an English school headmaster) so probably age 4ish?

I read when I was three, but as someone who has taught preschool for over a dozen years, that is very much the exception, not the rule. (I have had one three year old who read, and three kids that I know of who read the year after they left my class, so when they were four. There might be a few more in that latter group, because I don't always get to follow up with my kids.)

However, I think toddler bookworm sims could make sense, as they are allowed to read on their own if you put books on the floor. And tbh, I didn't even realize it wasn't an option, as I play with mods and can thus pick from any traits whenever I want. Maybe look into NRAAS, if that idea interests you?

I had a learning disorder and didn't learn to read/write properly until I was nine :D And only then with remedial classes so a special education teacher could get the knowledge into my wonky brain.

I'm really surprised that kids that young can learn to read fluently. But from my perspective everyone was super advanced.

The secret does nothing but remind me of how ugly Sims were in TS3, and how terrible pose mods tended to be. *shudder*