[ SECRET POST #3520 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3520 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Lara is not a real person to be victimized by your judgment. She is not a woman who expresses her own agency via her clothing choices. She literally was made that way to be sexy to male players. Judging in this case is a victimless crime.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the mechanics of intent, player reaction, and identification are at least a little more complex than youre making them out to be, and it's probably good to at least engage with the idea that women can and do relate to her.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, and there's nothing wrong with relating to her, and there's nothing wrong with a female character looking sexy. I don't think it's even a bad character design. It's still a fact that she was made that way for the purpose of being sexy to male audiences, though, and it's okay to be critical of that.

Yeah, no.

[chardmonster]

I'm pretty sure the mechanics of intent and identification are actually pretty simple when you are talking about first generation Lara Croft, who is a pair of boobs with a head, arms, legs, and a British accent.

She isn't talking about the current games Lara stan. Most women who really "relate to her" are looking at later iterations. I mean there were girls who liked her but... that's because our options were frequently either her, who actually did shit like shoot tigers, jump on platforms, and grunt a lot, or characters who were even more exploitative. Things were a little better with RPGs but often not by much. And those girls grew up and played the later games where there's actually more to her (and she got a more realistic body).

I mean unless you're a pair of boobs with a head and limbs, in which case you can join a group with the women who identify with the protagonist of Jurassic Park: Trespasser.

Re: Yeah, no.

[(Anonymous)]

She isn't talking about the current games Lara stan

This is a good point tbh, you're right for sure

Also to be clear here, I'm not saying people shouldn't be critical of the character, people absolutely should.

Re: Yeah, no.

[(Anonymous)]

Not who you replied to, but I think being "critical of the character" is kind of making the issue a little black and white. The original game is a classic and Lara still kicks a lot of butt. Young girls playing the game are probably going to like Lara, so will young boys for possibly non-sexual reasons, too. Her design was deliberately sexy, and the outfit doesn't look terribly practical for tomb raiding, but on its own if it existed in a vacuum, so what. The issue here is that female video game characters often get the sexy treatment for the sake of exciting male audiences, more often than they are given non-sexy outfits. It's just part of a bigger issue, but someone liking Lara on their own certainly isn't wrong, per se.