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⌈ Secret Post #3521 ⌋

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[World of Warcraft: Legion]

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(Fallout 4)

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[Doctor Who - 12/Clara]

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(The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

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[Bojack Horseman]

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[Criminal Minds]

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[Elite: Dangerous]

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[Street Fighter]

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Years later I still have so many feelings about Ezra's arc and in particular Ezra and Nathan's arc, and I will fight people over that particular tendency in this fandom to absolve Ezra and lambast Nathan (also Chris, but I have more feelings about Nathan). Especially as they grow closer and come to care about each other and their disagreements come more from an amazing gulf of personal experience rather than any actual dislike or even real distrust of each other.

Even their early ones in a lot of ways came from that. Ezra's blatant racism disappeared fairly quickly once he got to know Nathan, and Nathan never really seemed to hold it too much against him. It was other things that came between them. The things Nathan blew up at Ezra over were usually one of two things: actions that can be interpreted as the selling and buying of people ("Working Girls" and "Chinatown"), and taking people's hard-earned money by trickery or force for nothing but personal profit (lots of lowkey incidents). Given that Nathan was a slave whose entire early life was working and suffering for other people's profit, those are fairly understandable knee-jerk reactions for him, and Ezra didn't help himself sometimes because his experiences were so different that he often didn't even see Nathan's anger/anguish coming until it had hit.

I have a lot of feelings about "Working Girls" in particular, because I think Ezra legitimately did not see Nathan's anger coming because in his head he wasn't teaching women how to sell themselves/be sold better, he was teaching the women how to be like Maude, and Maude to him was never a victim in her life. He thought he was teaching them to be manipulative and to use their 'god-given assets' for their own benefit, and then Nathan blindsided him with the idea that he was helping sell people into a more refined form of slavery. Which marriage could legimately be, if there was no love in it, and which maybe made Ezra suddenly think about Maude herself slightly differently. It was just ... this amazing gap in experience that led them to interpret the same thing in vastly different ways, with some merit on both sides, and hurt each other magnificently in the process. Which they kept on doing, especially when they ran into issues like this, but which they also kept on working through and backing each other up in spite of, and that mattered to me. I seriously, seriously hated a lot of the Ezra apologisers/Nathan demonisers in fandom.

I have a lot of pent up feelings about this fandom, apparently.

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I think this is some great meta/analysis of their relationship. I completely agree with you

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