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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-27 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3524 ]


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Re: Where are you on the socio sexual hierarchy

(Anonymous) 2016-08-27 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
OT but: What's the difference between guys who treat sex and dating as "a game" and the guys who try to incorporate dating-sim logic into real life?

The former appear to look down on the latter but aren't they doing the exact same thing?
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Re: Where are you on the socio sexual hierarchy

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-08-27 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of the game-playing ones can actually be healthier. It depends on whether they view women as fellow players, out to have a good time and score some good sex, or as the subjects/targets of the game.

Re: Where are you on the socio sexual hierarchy

(Anonymous) 2016-08-28 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I knew someone who approached every female like they were in a dating sim

they didn't get anywhere, BUT they were completely harmless and actually ok to be around because he just figured he'd fucked up, or "chosen the wrong dialogue/action" if a girl didn't show him interest... in short, it wasn't the girl's fault if he didn't score and he didn't hold a grudge against them for turning him down

in my experience guys who treat sex and dating as a game tend to think that the same tricks can be used on everyone, and if they fail, the girls are somehow "faulty", like they're broken pieces of furniture or something...
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Re: Where are you on the socio sexual hierarchy

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-08-28 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think both are really creepy, but one is more overtly harmful (i.e. the one that blames the woman for the game failing is more likely to get violent or harass her afterwards).

However, the idea that you have to use the right dialogue to succeed and it's your fault for doing it wrong and just...looking at it only from that specific angle is still really fucked up because it still implies that women are formulaic and lack agency. Like if you click the right buttons you can just make us do what you want and we don't actually have a choice in the matter.