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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-08-27 04:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3524 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3524 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-08-28 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, Jack Vance. I read the Jack Vance Treasury that was in a Humble Bundle a while ago. Some of the stories had really interesting world-building, but it seems like the one thing he couldn't imagine was women who were more than an extension of their man. There were maybe a handful of women in 500+ pages, even fewer who actually had dialogue, and 0 who weren't the wife or servant of the main (male by default) character. And I'm running into a similar issue with the Harlan Ellison stuff from the same Bundle.

Which is why I generally prefer more modern sci-fi: at least the authors acknowledge that I exist.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-08-28 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds so insufferable.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-28 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Vance basically just... doesn't write women characters. IIRC in the Demon Princes series he just sort of... cycles new women characters in and out in each book of the series, instead of bothering to develop any of them.

But I was more referring to the novel he wrote The Gray Prince, which is literally, unambiguously an apologia for Rhodesia. And, like, it really doesn't have to depart very far from his other planetary romances to get to that point.

I still read some of his stuff, because his imaginative scope is pretty spectacular and his prose is great. But woo boy his politics were not at all agreeable.

(Anonymous) 2016-08-28 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Jean Parlier was pretty badass though.