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"Compulsory heterosexuality."

yah but compulsory heterosexuality is a real thing that has long reaching and complicated repercussions in some folks' lives tho so like

I hate "political lesbians". GTFO.

Mmmokay, I had to stifle a giggle at that one.

I'm a straight person. I can only naively assume that in some social environments, being in the closet would be necessary to preserve some queer person's safety, or at the minimum least protect them from being hazed or heckled. But the idea that it is compulsory to think straight inside one's own head is pretty domineering and ludicrous. Good luck enforcing that strange idea.

Actually, the idea isn't strange at all, it's just that the name is misleading. "Compulsory heterosexuality" refers to the idea that heterosexuality is assumed to be the default and is enforced as such, particularly in the case of women.

In fact, it's not so much about self-identified LGBT people consciously staying in the closet for safety--that's a very tired and simplistic narrative. More troubling is the fact that a lot of LGBT people (again, especially girls) are so completely assumed to be straight that they don't even recognize in themselves that they're not: like, it's so obvious to everyone that you're straight and going to marry a man and have kids that it truly doesn't even occur to you that you might be a lesbian, not just a really pathetic straight girl.

Tl;dr, don't laugh at compulsory heterosexuality just bc it sounds like something else; it's a real problem

Giggle anon here.

I thought that was called heteronormativity.

Nope! They're similar ideas, but not quite the same. Heteronormativity refers to the belief that there are two genders (man and woman) with natural roles (husband and wife). It's more of an ideological thing, whereas compulsory heterosexuality refers more to an experience that a lot of LGBT people have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteronormativity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_heterosexuality

But those same pressures that lead gay people to stay in the closet really do lead a lot of them to try to act straight in their minds too. What is there to giggle over here?

Though like the anon above me said, you don't seem to know what the phrase actually refers to.

Edited 2016-08-31 00:02 (UTC)

This is it exactly. Everyone talking about it made me feel like there's something wrong with me because I don't think I've ever done anything "compulsory" to be heterosexual. I think the heterosexual thoughts I've had happened because of fluid sexuality because hardly anyone is 100% one way or the other. But oh, I forgot, everything is black and white these days, isn't it?

I'm really confused about what you think "compulsory heterosexuality" refers to.

When you get so many subliminal messages to be straight that your brain picks them up and tricks you into thinking like a straight person.

SA

On tumblr, though, it also refers to bisexuals, who are actually gay and only think they're half straight because of compulsory heterosexuality (another reason I'm sick of the phrase.)

Nope. See above for a better definition.

... no, that's not... what it's ever meant

NB but anon as a straight person don't throw the word "queer" around. I understand you probably had no bad intentions but "queer" is a slur and many people still treat it that way.

>I'm a straight person

no shit

okay so unfollow those tumblr blogs? sorry gay people want to talk about structures that oppress them

I'd have no blogs to follow if I did that.

Lovin' how you assume I'm not included in "gay people." Sorry I don't feel oppressed enough for you, tho.

listen, man, just because it doesn't jive with your experience of gayness doesn't mean it's not an observable phenomenon that wreaks a lot of havoc in a lot of gay people's lives. also AYRT's comment really didn't assume you weren't gay, it literally just acknowledged that some gay people do experience certain kinds of oppression.

no you apparently just don't know the meaning of words you're against

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