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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-10 04:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #461 ]


⌈ Secret Post #461 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Update on the LJ situation.

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 48 secrets from Secret Submission Post #066.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] ether-bunny.livejournal.com 2008-04-10 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind Dumbledore-bashing, really, I thought that in the end the way he manipulated everyone around him very much seemed like 'doin it for the lulz', so I actually agree on that part, haha! Maybe not doing it for the lulz, exactly, but the credibility that would come with being the mentor to the Boy Who Lived To Sacrifice Himself And Kill The Dark Lord Voldemort, who, incidentally, he also handily happened to create. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire series of events which happened were Dumbledore using that legendary omniscience to play with the pawns around him. If anything, Dumbledore revealed himself to be more heartless than anyone else in the series. In the end of it, he hadn't actually CARED about anyone genuinely and without a level of manipulation since he was eighteen years old. He had developed from someone who could love into someone who chose not to, and what he did to the people around him who trusted him is, frankly, unforgivable in my eyes (even stemming as far back as not controlling the treatment of the less popular students in the school - surely he could have monitored the bullying a little more heavily and treated it with more severity instead of laughing it off like it didn't matter? It's not like Snape would have been the only one affected by it - how many of the Slytherins who went on to become Death Eaters were bullied first-hand by James and Sirius? And for all the potential for good within Sirius Black, there is nothing anyone can say to me to convince me that he didn't wholly deserve to be expelled for the incident in which Remus nearly ATE Severus Snape. The fact that Severus and Sirius were both quite obviously suffering in abusive homes should have been a point of concern for him, and Sirius might not have acted out in such dangerous ways if HE'D had some more individual attention, too.)

Basically, eliminate Dumbledore from the picture, implant McGonagall as Headmistress, and here I see where so many of these problems could have been avoided. Dumbledore was a lovable headmaster, but I don't believe he was a very good one, he was far too disinterested in the welfare of ALL of his students.

(Anonymous) 2008-04-10 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes! I feel you understand what I'm saying very well, which is saying something, considering I frequently feel misunderstood on Fandom!Secrets. lol

It was actually a discussion similar to this that provoked me to make the secret in the first place. Despite the fact Dumbledore is made out in a liberal light, he comes off very conservative to me. He holds his "greater good" banner directly in front of his face, blinding him from the individuals. Even though he came to the conclusion that Grindelwald's methods were wrong, he still seemed to hold the "doing it for the greater good" values close.

I used the phrase 'did it for the lulz' mostly because I'm doing it for the lulz. I like secrets that make me laugh, so I thought I'd return the favor. So, it's probably not the most accurate description, but I think I got the general point across. lol

Despite all this, I still can't bring myself to hate Dumbledore. Just like I can't bring myself to hate Bellatrix or Voldemort. Why I latch onto the characters--who if I knew if they were real people, I would hate them--is beyond me, and I frequently question my own mental health over it. Thus, I'm choosing to remain anonymous over that factor rather than my opinions in of themselves. ~.~