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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-07 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3535 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are super rare in media. Like, notoriously uncommon, even more uncommon than white man/black woman.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yet I could give you three examples right now.

Jessica Jones, Holes, Jungle Fever

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, good for you! I guess the fact that it's extremely uncommon is surprise not true after all.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"fact"

"true"

Mmmkay.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That proves nothing

Like, it's definitionally anecdotal and useless

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, so is the supposed "fact" I was replying to...

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That wasn't anecdotal. They said it was less common than expected, not that it would never happen. They didn't include the evidence in their post but that's not the same as being anecdotal.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, so not anecdotal. Just useless.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"Look, it's snowing today! That means global warming isn't happening!"

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're going to keep up the boring ole same-anoning, please at least link me to this statistical evidence that black man/white woman pairings are "like, notoriously uncommon" or at least tell me what you're basing that on kthx.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Would you list a list of every movie/tv show that doesn't have a black man/white woman romance?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, really, this is what we ought to do to talk about this. And it's not impossible but it would be a hell of a lot of work to make the dataset.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

At the very least, we ought to have evidence comparing the numbers of m/f vs. f/m black/white interracial pairings. And it wouldn't hurt to have the numbers of black/non-black POC, black/black, and non-black POC/non-black POC pairings, too.

The number of white/white pairings is so ridiculously high that I think it's not strictly necessary to count them all in order to have a reasonable discussion on this topic. But we do need some kind of hard evidence, or else all we're doing is arguing based on ~feels.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-07 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Jessica Jones ha one, and I vaguely recall there being some wank.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I can think ot at least Jessica Jones, Supergirl, and Arrow, and I don't watch any of them.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Superhero stories seem to be good for this kind of thing. Though I'm not entirely surprised. One of my first and forever interracial ships (and ships in general) was John Stewart/Shayera Hol from the DCAU, even if it did go pear-shaped after Starcrossed. I adore them.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - I think sci-fi, including superheroes, tends to be more likely to show interracial relationships than many other genres, tbh

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose once interspecies becomes an option, interracial is hardly going to raise eyebrows. Or shouldn't, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Also at least 2 Companion couples on Doctor Who that I can think of: Rose Tyler and Mickey Smith, Clara Oswald and Danny Pink.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2016-09-08 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember there being a lot of comment about Rose and Mickey. Didn't see any about Clara/Danny. (From that perspective, anyway.)

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Live and Let Die, A View To A Kill, Die Another Day, Jungle Fever, Saved By The Bell (Lisa kissed Zack, but it wasn't as if they've gone out, as the writers really wanted Zack and Kelly to be endgame), A Patch of Blue, My Baby Is Black. The list goes on...

men are weak

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's because white men cry about a secret hidden agenda to "take their woman" and they are afraid of being called cucks. I wish I was making this shit up but it really does boil down to fragile male ego.

Like, a white guy with a non-white woman is okay or a fetish to them... yet a white woman with a non-white male is super offensive to them... lol I love to see these types of relationships just to watch them combust.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You have any evidence to support this claim? I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, but it's also not something to take on faith, given people's tendency towards confirmation bias.

(Personally, I'd guess the numbers are about equal for black man/white woman and for white man/black woman TV pairings, but I don't have any evidence of that, and I'm just as prone to being wrong as anyone else.)