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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-07 06:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Has South Park spent a lot of time making fun of South Park fans, then

Not like they don't deserve it

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
If South Park hasn't specifically made fun of you, you're not human.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Right???

Like, does it actually spend a lot of time making fun of libertarians, people who think the truth is in the middle, and people who object to political correctness. Maybe it does. I don't watch the show.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
"and people who object to political correctness"

Kind of? Cartman is the most racist, bigoted member of the main cast, and he's treated as a joke and pretty much always shown to be in the wrong.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but I always got the sense that was more on account of Cartman specifically being a tremendous dick / evil? In a sort of comedically absurd way that they don't usually try to frame as related to reality?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Comically absurd and unrealistic is South Park's modus operandi. I mean... that's how they make fun of everyone?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but I would argue there's a difference between the way they depict - for instance - Al Gore in the manbearpig episode, and Cartman generally. It's a different mode of over the top that's less rooted in actual social things.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
True, but all the views he espouses are ones held by real people. Cartman's characterization is a classic example of taking ideas and beliefs and comically exaggerating them to show how nonsensical they are.

You know, actual satire, as opposed to the mindless offensive-for-the-sake-of-being-offensive bullshit that so many "adult" cartoons try to pass off as satire. *cough*FAMILY GUY*cough*

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
And the chicken molester was an Ayn Rand fan.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

That's not the best example if you're trying to disprove ayrt's point. The only people who take Ayn Rand fans seriously are Ayn Rand fans.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ayn Rand fans are an extremely specific subset of libertarians in my experience, but fair point.

OP

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
The argument I've heard from a couple different sources is that South Park makes fun of people who care about things, no matter what it is they care about. According to this formulation, the way to not be made fun of is to not care about anything at all. I can't speak to how accurate this is, since I don't watch the show.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say that's an accurate summary. It makes fun of people who take themselves or their opinions too seriously.

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Which by them means actually caring about anything? Huh. Asswipes.

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[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hell, they made fun if shippers and yaoi fangirls. I mean, those types of people watching the episode took the wrong message from it and ended up shipping Craig and Tweek hardcore.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
What about people who watch South Park more generally

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Don't think so, but if you fit in the other categories, you got made fun of for other reasons. But casual fans aren't batshit.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
But it goes to the point that it is not true that South Park really is completely equal opportunity and universal in what it makes fun of. Which means you have to question the way it positions its humor more generally.

I think it's an important point specifically because I think what South Park really does is position its viewers as reasonable and sharp and etc.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
It does. I don't take the show seriously and avoid fandoms like the plague these days, so it's not something I much care to do.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think they took the right message from that. lol

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, gross!

The art style makes it hard for me to even picture it and I like Craig too, I missed when he just flipped people off lol. (Tweek is alright).

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
It's hilarious that you think people weren't shipping those characters for years before that episode aired. It was written because people were shipping them.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
People were/are shipping Kyle and Cartman too. I'm not that ignorant of it, but it did make the shippers think they were canon.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I mean the official South Park wiki lists C&T as being boyfriends, so I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be some kind of canon

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-09-08 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
First, it's a wiki, so Matt and Trey have no involvement and neither does Comedy Central, so it's not official, and secondly, it's obvious just a fake relationship so the townspeople would be happy.