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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-11 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3539 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww. I never even thought about that possibility, but now it seems even more tragic.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2016-09-11 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oof that makes it worse for me!

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Just out of curiosity, is this just a random headcanon or is there a kernel of this in the books?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-11 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
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Just a random headcanon. No one knows anything about the background of the Witch-King before he got the ring, except that Tolkien wrote in a letter that he was "probably" (though not definitely) a Numenorean.

The passage quoted implies that SOME of the Nazgul started out good with good intentions, but there's no way of knowing which ones, afaik. But I liked the idea that the most powerful one and the one we see the most of was an ex-good guy.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-11 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I tend to more think he was already particularly evil and was personally selected by Sauron. Kind of like how I see Sauron already having kernels of who he would become before he met Melkor. The other Nazgul were just kings willing to take the rings, but I think the Witch King was someone who was specifically chosen for his potential, someone Sauron already had his eye on.

But I do like this headcanon too.
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[personal profile] analise 2016-09-11 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
So Sauron is Palpatine in this situation and the Witch-King is Anakin/Darth Vader?

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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-11 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, kind of. Not to the extent that Melkor and Mairon are because I think Mairon mostly saw the Nazgul as tools. I don't think he actually much cares about them. But yes, he's good at finding evil potential and corrupting. That's his whole schtick.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-12 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I like this!

In Tolkien's work there's this element that that the better and brighter and "higher" you are the further and harder you are able to fall.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
My headcanon was one I got from Valandhir. Her screen name was originally a name she came up with for an Edain who refused to go to Númenor and settled in the Angmar region. Now I don't think the Witch King is Valandhir exactly, but he would be a direct descendant who was alive at the time Sauron was handing out the rings.

But I could easily fit your idea into that set-up, even though I also think Angmar as a region tended to be quite brutal by nature. A good king in a brutal land who accepted the ring because it would help him control an often chaotic land... and it ended up turning him into a vicious tyrant-king and eventually a Wraith.