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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-13 07:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #3541 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3541 ⌋

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Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
The issue is not whether they'll be deterred by the law; the issue is that the new "trans inclusive" laws makes it impossible to prosecute such offenders, because they can legally get away with claiming to be trans or have a snowflake non-binary identity.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
You're saying that it would be impossible to prosecute someone who committed assault in a bathroom if they claimed to be trans?

Are you for fucking real here?

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
That is the end goal of trans activism, yes. How else do you explain the trans activists defending sexual predators such as Synthia China Blast?
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Re: some food for thought

[personal profile] soldatsasha 2016-09-14 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Why does it matter if they "get away with" claiming to be trans? The issue should be whether or not they get away with assaulting people.

Whether the law is for or against people using the restroom of their choice is irrelevant, because someone choosing to disguise themselves to infiltrate a restroom/dressing room/other isolated environment to commit a crime is not going to care whether or not it's illegal for them to be in that environment. They're choosing to break the law by hurting people either way.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Trans activists want to make it possible for transwomen to get away with sexual assault, though. That's the real goal of all this fuss they're kicking up over bathroom bills. Case in point: all the activists defending known sexual predators like Synthia China Blast, solely because she is a transwoman.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's an outright lie, and you know it.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. It's the logical conclusion of cotton ceiling rhetoric. Transwomen think they're entitled to "cis" womens' bodies. Gee. Kind of like men, huh?

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that men are, in fact, prosecuted for sexual assault, right? Despite thinking they have a right to women's bodies? Despite being the majority of law makers?

Why in the fuck do you think trans women, who are severely marginalized and absolutely not a majority of law makers, would be any less likely to be prosecuted?

PS a cis man lurking in a ladies' room so he can rape someone is not a trans woman.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
You do realize that men are, in fact, prosecuted for sexual assault, right?

Not nearly as often as they should be.

Why in the fuck do you think trans women [...] would be any less likely to be prosecuted?

In the current climate, they aren't, thank god. But if the cotton ceiling crowd has their way, that's gonna change. You might think I'm being uncharitable in assuming trans activists will actively campaign to make allowances for trans predators, but here's the thing; they support predators in their communities. They defend predators in their communities. In some case, they even go so far as to deny those predators are "real" trans people, much like you're doing right now, with this remark:

PS a cis man lurking in a ladies' room so he can rape someone is not a trans woman.

Perfect example of the No True Scotsman fallacy, btw.

I'll stop being suspicious of the trans community's motives when they get their fucking act together and stop making excuses for rapists and pedophiles. The harmful actions of a predator should not be defended, excused, or allowed simply because that predator happens to be trans.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Saying a cis man is not a trans woman is no closer to a No True Scotsman fallacy than saying a German man is not a Scottish woman.

Except, of course, in the minds of bigotted trolls desperate to deny that trans women are women.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
"A transwoman who assaulted someone in a bathroom must actually be a cis man in disguise, because a real transwoman would never do that, therefore all predators are cis men."

This is what you're saying. How is that not a No True Scotsman fallacy?

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Trans activists want to make it possible for transwomen to get away with sexual assault, though. That's the real goal of all this fuss they're kicking up over bathroom bills.

That's not goddamn true and you should be ashamed for saying it.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said to the other anon in this thread, I'll stop being suspicious of the trans community's motives when they get their fucking act together and stop making excuses for rapists and pedophiles.
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Re: some food for thought

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-09-14 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Who the fuck is "the trans community"? Is L.B. Lee the trans community? Is Pervocracy the trans community? What person or people would need to call out rapists any more than they already do in order for you to consider "the trans community" to be against rape?

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Motherfucker. No matter how angry you are about rapists and pedophiles in the trans community, that still does not make your statement true or acceptable in the slightest.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
If they attemp or commit sexual assault, they can be prosecuted for sexual assalt regardless of whether they can argue they had a right to be in the bathroom.

Re: some food for thought

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
There is no identity that will make someone immune to prosecution for sexual assault.

You know, the crime they actually committed.