[ SECRET POST #463 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #463 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 19 pages, 459 secrets from Secret Submission Post #066.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[grandrevival.livejournal.com]

*nods* I believe it was said (possibly in chat) that crack characters for the sake of crack (the first two examples anon listed being like that) were the ones that were being capped. Recognisably IC characters in an AU are still fine.

[(Anonymous)]

I personally disagree. The distinction between crack and AU is starting to get to me. Taking a character's name and altering their appearance, personality, AND background that drastically do NOT make them an AU. They make them an OC of the same name.

There is an extreme difference between a AU who has been developed over the course of an RP as opposed to a character created randomly to a player's liking.

But that is just my thoughts. I am one of the many who has left the DR and won't be returning, no matter how much fun it was in the beginning.

Thanks for the good times, Jess mod. It really was great.

[cantwinahand.livejournal.com]

amen to the AU Does Not Make It Okay To Be OOC thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I'm not entirely against those characters being in the DR (it is kinda cracky place, even if people seem to freak out when you say that), but it bugs me when people stick up for said characters and go ahead and ban others that are actually, closer to canon than the AU is.

[derbildhauer.livejournal.com]

I'm with you, baby, as always.

UNF

[(Anonymous)]

Dat's hawt.

Anon wants in too.

[derbildhauer.livejournal.com]

You want in between a Von Karma and a Kristoph Gavin?

Anon truly is SICK IN THE HEAD.

But I love you anyway.

[derleibhaftige.livejournal.com]

MAN TRAIN? Y/VY?

[(Anonymous)]

YYYYY

[derleibhaftige.livejournal.com]

I LIKE THE WAY THIS ANON THINKS.

[cantwinahand.livejournal.com]

I don't fuck old men, though I thank you for your offer, Prosecutor von Karma. I respect you quite a bit, but perhaps not that much.

[derleibhaftige.livejournal.com]

My, such base and vulgar language, my dear alternate.

[cantwinahand.livejournal.com]

My mun has been quite vulgar as of late. It seems I cannot help but pull from her vocabulary. My apologies.

[derbildhauer.livejournal.com]

Ah yes, Mr Gavin, It had escaped my memory for a moment that you prefer to keep such things in the family.

Your compliment is most welcome - perhaps one day I shall be able to return it.

[cantwinahand.livejournal.com]

Unfortunate that your oh-so-clever repertoire did not save you from a guilty verdict, sir.

[derbildhauer.livejournal.com]

Likewise, sir. Likewise.

tl;dr is tl;dr and probably off point but it's 3am

[grandrevival.livejournal.com]

kdglfgfls Maaaaybe I'm being blind but I don't see the point where you disagree with me. I said so long as the AU leaves the original version of the character recognisably IC... >_> I used the example of Fashion Designer!Nick earlier- so long as he still comes off as Phoenix under different circumstances, he's AU.

I spend a ridiculous amount of time worrying about my own AU characters and I know CERTAIN ONES are beyond saving at this point (short of taking them out and restarting them).

One of the main problems with AU is balance between the original character's behaviour and the circumstances of the new universe (several people can tell you how often I'm like "fjkjfkvlsklv ooc damn you" or "oh god random headcanon wtf") because the further away you deviate from the original canon, the more psychological and behavioural changes the character's going to go through.

It's the exact reason 'DL-6 never happened' AUs are such a headfuck, because you have to consider which aspects of Edgeworth's personality (and Phoenix's, to an extent) were determined by 15 years with von Karma, and which were innate. Add to that that the only real idea of Gregory's parenting skills we have is adored by his son, single father and lawyer- you're really working with a mostly OC parent for a significant period of his life.

CANON characters barely take the same interpretation by two different people (one of my favourite things about being in the DR is getting to see how people's own view of the world helps shape their view of the characters we're presented in Phoenix Wright -why no I'm not into Psychology, why would you ask?), AU characters have a whole other field of issues attached to them and it is a rather grey area to find yourself in- one that shouldn't be taken lightly or without consideration and discussion with at least other players, preferably mods if you can, to decide if a character is too out there.

Go to sleep!! XD

[(Anonymous)]

I really agree with what you are saying, I was just talking about AU's that...really aren't even AU's anymore.

Fashion Designer!Nick works because even though he isn't an attorney, he is, generally, the same guy, just a different profession. (You'll have to forgive me, I don't know that one and could be completely off.)

I won't give examples of the AU's that stand out to me as I do NOT want to make more wank or drama then there already is. Not to mention, I think it would be just plain rude to bring specific people into this.

I really enjoyed the DR for the same reasons. Seeing how other people play their character's differently (so many different Edgeworths!), but I've always felt there was a line that a few people crossed and it was never taken care of.

I have no issues with the mods and think they are great people, I just wish a few rules would be stated a bit more clearly.

I'd also like them to respond to an email that was sent out a few days ago :/ I know they are busy, but it was a few simple questions that I really would have liked to hear the answer to.

I did at midnight. >_> For like an hour.

[grandrevival.livejournal.com]

When the announcement was officially made the first thing I wanted to know was a clarification on what made crack and AU, because there have been some rather extreme AUs (I think one of mine was said to be 'so AU it's hard to decide whether to call him IC or not') made before the rule was implemented so it's kind of awkward to feel for an exact measure of how far you can go with characters now.

The Fashion Designer!Nick was just a random example off the top of my head. I was thinking of a rather old conversation with a friend and Nick Gunn for reasons even I can't think of.

I think the DR did start off a lot more relaxed, but then a lot of people (myself included) got totally addicted, the members expanded, and we seemed to get a lot of publicity, which naturally led to... well, all of this. I know the mods weren't expecting such a huge turnout for the place so a lot of decisions have been rolling with the punches for the place.

Yes, and the different characterisations of characters at different points in the series is something else I love about playing there. (I really need to play with my 1-2 set Edgeworth more, he's such an anal little bastard.) The series is exceptional for main character development (and I hope that continues into the Apollo Justice arc as well) and there have been some characters who've echoed that beautifully while in the DR (off the top of my head feeniehearts and young_frills/unguidedfate).

I tend to usually stalk new active characters for a bit and decide whether I like the way they're played or not so I don't have to start whining about "ZOMG OOC GTFO MY RP THX." It's happy fun time, and in a place as big as the DR it shouldn't be too hard to interact with characters you don't like more than the bare minimum. (Though that does bring up the problem of cliques and Christ I go off topic a lot.)

I hope the mods have been finding time to discuss the email you sent to give the fairest answers to the questions asked even though it's late now because I know none of them are the type to leave something like that hanging without good reason.