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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-14 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3542 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Come down off your high horse. There are people in the world that genuinely deserve to die. It is fine to wish them dead.

Also, like someone else said, she's going to die eventually regardless. It would just be funny if it was something preventable by vaccine.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-14 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree. there are people who deserve to die, but I don't think it is okay to wish any human being dead (except if you are thinking about the lives it might save rather than just thinking that person deserves to die). And I don't personally think that is funny at all. Death isn't funny.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Wishing doesn't actually hurt anyone. Have you never had thought, "Man. I wish this asshole in front of me would trip." Or, "That dude who keeps aggressively hitting on women needs to fall down a sewer drain."
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-09-14 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't hurt anyone. But I still think it is a shitty thing to do. And yes, I've wished someone would be hurt before, but I've only ever thought about wanting someone dead in the "it popped into my head and I immediately felt guilty" sort of way. I just personally don't think it is okay to wish another human being dead.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's one thing to entertain the thought.

It's another to fail to consider that it just may be an unproductive thought, and one that's even just a little bit shitty to have about another human being.

In other words, have your thought, fine, but it's always a good idea to check yourself.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's an unwholesome and highly unpleasant mind state that, if it becomes a habit, makes YOU become unwholesome and highly unpleasant.

In that sense, it hurts someone. Just not her.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I agree wth you. People are so uptight.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
But it really would save lives if she weren't around to use her celebrity to lie about vaccines and encourage people not to vaccinate their children. How are you denying this point?

And if she were killed by a disease that could have been prevented were the herd immunity not damaged by her lies, perhaps people that listened to her previously would WISE UP.

I think it would be amazingly beneficial. I'm not talking about irony or schadenfreude, I'm talking about real results.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-16 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
YOU'RE NO LOUIS C.K, YOURSELF.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-09-14 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You're that person who thinks due process is bullshit and book burning is okay, aren't you?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Hrm, no, I think that's a leap. Thinking someone totally deserves a punch in the face and wishing karma would make circumstances fall into place to grant them one somehow is not the same as being okay with doing it, or allowing it to happen if you could prevent it.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-09-14 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually referring to two specific incidences of an anon here saying just that -- the latter quite recently.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the difference between those two are clear. This anon is not wishing Jenny dead, she's saying if and when Jenny were to die, if the circumstances happened to be a preventable disease the irony would be humorous. That's a far cry from wishing she'd drop dead right now.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-09-14 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I, uh

I think you need to read that comment a little more closely, because AIRT did say "it's fine to wish someone dead." That implies that they are wishing Jenny dead and are trying to morally justify it.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the issue is that we see "wishing someone dead" differently. When I hear most people use that phrase, they don't mean immediately, right now as they speak. They mean it as an eventual, general statement in the "ugh, I wish she'd go off and die somewhere" way, not the "I wish she'd drop dead right now at my feet" way. It's a bit difficult to explain but they hold different nuance for me and the former is a lot less vindictive.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-09-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's kind of a naive way of thinking it, because in my experience when someone wishes someone dead, they mean like right the fuck now. "Drop dead," etc.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-14 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
IME if they mean drop dead in the sense that they'd kill them with their mind if they had the ability, they're more specific about the immediacy of it. Drop dead is also a phrase I hardly ever hear used to literally mean death, more like "fuck off outta here." But you may be right, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-15 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
And clearly first on the list is people who say shit you don't like, right?