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I was just watching a documentary on her lmao.

While I obviously don't support her, I do feel super bad for her. She came from a super majorly fucked up home life, and it's believed that she killed her first few victims in self-defense.

I can see why people would have sympathy towads her. Defending her actions is pretty gross tho.

I always figured that's where it came from...she had some honestly shit experiences. That doesn't justif it, but I can sort of see how it would fuck you up.

Seconding all of this.

Almost all serial killers came from extremely fucked up and abusive backgrounds. And other than her first kill (which was only sort of in self defense) she admitted that she did it for money and thrills.

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Are there any other female serial killers in history? She's the only one I ever see brought up and her circumstances are pretty depressing.

Elizabeth Bathory is one (the most famous, I think)

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philstar22 - 2016-09-16 00:36 (UTC) - Expand

Absolutely. But they're less likely to do what she did and more likely to be healthcare workers such as nurses, who kill their patients. They're called Angels of Mercy. But they're actually murderers.

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There's a few, but she's the most well-known one in modern American culture.

Several, but they were usually killing with their boyfriends or husbands, like Rosemary West and Karla Homolka, not alone.

Belle Gunness, the black widow.

There are a ton of female serial killers. It's just after Monster she really became the go to.

You have Kristen Gilbert the Angel of Death.
A ton of Black Widows, like Nannie Doss & Betty Lou Beets.
There was that Japanese midwife that murdered all those infants.
Several other nursing home murderers.

Female serial killers just tend to not be as bloody as men. Often poisoning and such instead of butchering. Though you do have the butchers like Elizabeth Báthory

There have been quite a few. I ended up reading an article about them about a month or two ago. This should get your started (trigger warning, obv) -

http://www.the-line-up.com/9-female-serial-killers/

http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-female-serial-killers/reference

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katieheaney/11-terrifying-female-serial-killers-youve-never-heard-of?utm_term=.rtYrVD2Laq#.ss33Vnb86a

Just in the US: Jane Toppan, Belle Gunness, Dorothea Puente, Genene Jones--and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Elizabeth Bathory, as the anon above me also noted, although people will get into arguments as to the authenticity of the accounts, due to the fact that's its over 500 years ago. I think while some of the details have been sensationalized over time, I think she was also a killer.

I've come across accounts of a few female serial killers when reading historical accounts. There were a definite few in the 1700-1800s in the US; the one I'm thinking of advertised herself as a widow looking for a husband. The men would come courting, and never be seen again. She moved around, but eventually got sloppy and a few bodies were found; however, she ended up getting away. Wish I could remember her name, but for all the women I looked up, there were write-ups on Wikipedia, so probably a simple search would turn up some of them.

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They are less common but exist - to my knowledge though Aileen Wuornos is a bit uncommon cause she wasn't a. an Angel of Death (serial killer nurse) b. a black widow or c. working with a man as a couple (ala Myra Hindley or Karla Homolka)

Google "Baby Farms". While it's harder to track how many infants/young children died many baby farms from the 1800s-1900s were horrible.
There were a number of women who ran them who let the child die of neglect or right out murder.

Oh, definitely. Most of them weren't quite as, uh, hands on as Aileen Wuornos, though. There were quite a few serial poisoners, such as Mary Ann Cotton. There were so called angels of mercy, who tended to be healthcare workers who murdered their patients. There were women who killed or conspired to kill as part of a team, like Karla Homolka and Rosemary West. But few of female serial killers murdered able-bodied men the way Wuornos did.

Oh they exist, like female school shooters, but generally mass murder is much much more of a male pastime. I'd actually be really interested to know why that is but sadly the gender divide on this is far too politicized to get a real reliable study on it.

Plenty. http://www.the-line-up.com/9-female-serial-killers/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_before_1900

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Who is this? What did she do? Details?

Google her name yourself, don't make us do it for you.

Aileen Wuornos, as it says in the secret. She was a serial killer who murdered seven men while working as a prostitute.

There have been books and documentaries about her, but she is perhaps well known still today because Charlie Theron played her in the film Monster and won an Oscar for her performance.

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It sounds no different then the women and men who write serial killers and fall in love with them while they are in prison. They see the killer as a person who got caught up in circumstances. But it's all bullshit. Other people have had worst childhoods then she had and they didn't grow up to become a killer. Anyone who sees her or any other serial killer as a victim is either immature or an idiot.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-09-16 14:16 (UTC) - Expand

Idk, OP. I don't know the case super well, but my sense was that Aileen Wuornos was quite different from a lot of male serial killers in that there's a lot of ambiguity as to whether her killings were in semi self-defense (retaliation against abusive clients). Not that that justifies killing seven people! Far from it. But she really doesn't seem to fit the model of a male serial killer who kills for pleasure/thrills--rather, it seems obvious her killings were in some measure an act of desperation or retaliation against a lifetime of abuse and an incredibly perilous immediate situation.

I haven't seen the people you're talking about defending her, and there's a good chance they'd rub me the wrong way too. But pointing out the major differences between her case and our usual picture of what "serial killer" means is worthwhile, IMO.