[ SECRET POST #3547 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3547 ⌋

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Comments

[sparrow_lately]

ETA: This is a cultural imperative as much as an individual one.

It's imperative because in uncritically supporting, to use my above example, John Lennon, I am supporting his wifebeating, his racism, his shitty treatment of his family, his nasty jokes about the mentally disabled, etc., etc.

Take someone whose reach was more extensive than John Lennon. Thomas Jefferson was one hell of a writer, and many of his endeavors ultimately honorable--for example, I'm a big fan of public education, which was a cause he championed. But he was also an unrepentant racist, justifying chattel slavery with everything from pseudoscience to his own inertia, and he almost certainly (really, there is exceptionally little doubt, and rumors about this date as far back at the 1780/90s) raped his slave(s). So if I uncritically hold up Jefferson as a hero, I tell the world--everyone--that being a rich man, a good politician, and a bang-up writer renders appalling human rights abuses a nonissue. That's not just a historical shrug; that's participating in a system of dehumanization (of blacks and other racial minorities, of women, etc.) that has dominated for centuries.

So the short version is that it is, in fact, imperative, because historically injustice prevails when people ignore this impetus to critically examine creators and celebrities and people in power, and to draw attention to their flaws. This isn't passive; it's how injustice happens. This is on a big scale (Jefferson) and small ones--take a look at how many known sexual abusers of children continue to get jobs in Hollywood, and a million other examples.

I'm okay calling it imperative, even if it's just because one woman whose husband beat her doesn't have to see another abuser treated like like a king.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yeah, you're a blast at parties.

[sparrow_lately]

Always.

[(Anonymous)]

ah yes, ye ole bully someone into shutting up by implying no one wants to hang with them

[(Anonymous)]

All that matters, right? FUN. Grow some empathy, you selfish little millenial.

[(Anonymous)]

His wife was Yoko though.

[(Anonymous)]

Second wife. Look things up.

[(Anonymous)]

Is that why he was problematic? He make Yoko and her awful fucking singing famous?

[(Anonymous)]

That would be reason enough on its own.

[arcadiaego]

They're suggesting it's ok to beat your wife if it's Yoko. They think they're edgy.

[(Anonymous)]

Couldn't you just say "I like x song" instead of "I like John Lennon"?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh boy citing the Depp case as if there's any evidence.

I find it really wild that Brown is only seen as an abuser of women, when he's got a history of violence with damn near everyone. Apparently the men he beat up before Beyoncé don't matter for some reason.

[sparrow_lately]

Imagine hating women this much.

[(Anonymous)]

I seriously don't get where you're going with this. Is this a fandom joke I'm not familiar with?

[sparrow_lately]

Imaging hating women so much you come into a days-old thread to dispute the idea that Hollywood has a problem with lionizing abusive men.