[ SECRET POST #464 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #464 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 379 secrets from Secret Submission Post #067.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 (twice) 5 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Butting in

[pikabot]

If a character does not contribute to the plot, he/she is useless! This doesn't need to be a direct contribution to the plot, it can even be supporting from the sidelines, but there needs to be something. And the more screentime he/she has, the more he/she has to do to not be useless, because there is a ratio at work here. It's moronic to say that a character who appeared in one episode was useless for not contributing as much to the plot as the protagonist, because there was no space in which for him/her to do things. But a character who reoccurs, over and over, getting more screentime than 75% of the cast, should contribute to make him/her worth the space he/she's taking up.

Sakura has not done this! She has not affected the plot in any meaningful way, she has not affected the characters around her very much because the dynamic that gets the most attention is between Kakashi, Naruto, and Sasuke, she just didn't do squat until partway through Part Two, and even that contribution pales in comparison to what characters less significant than her have thrown in.

I'm glad you like her. But please, don't try to claim that she contributes massively to the manga.

And hey, if we want to talk about useless to the plot, how about the main character himself! Naruto RARELY propels the story forward himself, he's usually just reacting to the action going on around him.

Oh please. I hate Naruto for completely different reasons, but now you're just throwing shit out there for the sake of it.

Re: Butting in

[sammywhatammy]

This doesn't need to be a direct contribution to the plot, it can even be supporting from the sidelines
What, like Sakura?
I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree, because while her role may not be active enough for the amount of screentime she gets, I still think it's pretty damn important.

When did I say "massively"? You're putting words in my mouth. I've been agreeing with you to an extent, she doesn't do much for the plot, no. But I do still think she's important. "Massively"? That's kinda stretching it.

And no, not really. The only time I can actually think of Naruto actively pushing the plot is during the Sasuke Rescue Arc when he gathered a team because he wanted to go after Sasuke.