[ SECRET POST #3552 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3552 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I've got no skin in this game, but I'd say it comes from the part where Anakin was, like, 10 when he was taken away from his family to be trained by Obi Wan. There's already something a little cult-like about the Jedi, and when you throw fucking into the mix it sounds an awful lot like grooming. It doesn't actually get any better when you remember that Anakin was almost kicked out of the program for being too old, among other things.

I mean, Obikin is hot and tragic and manages to achieve actually chemistry on screen, which is something that Anidala failed miserably at. But it's not exactly a stretch to say that Master/Padawan relationships are inherently abusive when they mostly involve the Master choosing a child who has been raised by his cult and being almost exclusively responsible for training that child until they're of fuckable age.

[(Anonymous)]

technically anakin was taken away from his family to be trained by qui-gon. it's just that he got dead so it fell on obi-wan.

i see what you're saying tho. i would argue against the idea that master/padawan relationships are inherently abusive, simply because, at least in obikin's case, they're typically written after anakin is an adult and he's the aggressor at least the good ones are written that way lmao. also, the presumed chastity of the jedi (which isn't canon, i guess, but is something that a lot of people really get off on).

idk, i just think that it's kinda dumb to sweep such a wide brush over the master/padawan ships; it's really depends on how it's portrayed.

altho even if it was inherently abusive, it's fictional, so people who get all pissy about it need to stop. but that's my opinion lmao.

[(Anonymous)]

Meh. I think the whole "Taken from his family to be trained by Obi-Wan" thing is mitigated by a few factors:

1. At no point did Obi-Wan express any interest in Anakin or in training him. The only reason he became Anakin's master was to honor Qui-Gon's dying wish.

2. Qui-Gon tried to keep Anakin and his mother together but was unable to because Watto refused to let Shmi go.

3. It was heavily implied that Anakin would be a danger to himself and others if he didn't receive Jedi training.

4. In this case "taken from his family" = "rescued from slavery"

I think you could make a case that the Jedi system of training is unhealthy (which is kind of the point of the prequels) and that other master/ padawan relationships are inherently unhealthy, but I don't think that works for Obikin. And Obikin is one of my ultimate NOTPs.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, you actually made it sound creepier with 4. We have now moved into "Snape rescues Harry from the Dursleys and fosters him and in Seventh Year they realize they're in love" territory...

YKINMK, etc., but the situation you're describing is pretty fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

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it was qui-gon that took anakin, not obi-wan.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, at the end of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's mission, Qui-Gon took Anakin. Then he died, leaving Obi-Wan to raise and train the child.

[(Anonymous)]

Qui-Gon rescued Anakin from slavery, then got his own ass killed, sticking Obi-Wan with the hard part- how to train an uber-powerful ten year old with serious anger and abandonment issues. Obi-Wan, despite having absolutely no teaching experience, did his best. Then Anakin essentially graduated and became Obi-Wan's peer and brother-in-arms which he remained for a number of years.

In canon, there's zero hint of romance between them, so it's up to the fan authors to make their relationship as creepy and fucked up as appeals to them.

[(Anonymous)]

I gotta disagree with you about Anakin in TPM having "serious anger and abandonment issues." For a nine-year-old who had to leave his mother forever without promise of future contact, he is a remarkably sweet, nice boy. And then we fast-forward through being Obi-Wan's Padawan for ten years and in AOTC he's a fucking mess.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah... Obi-Wan really fell down in the "how to raise a well-adjusted Jedi" department.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a PERSON and my name is ANAKIN!

Yoda's main objection to training him is the amount of fear and anger bottled up inside of him, not his age (although that's part of it). The combination of weak writing and a truly awful performance might make it hard to see, but it's there.

Anakin's fine as long as he's getting his way and/or has Shmi to ground him. In TPM, both those conditions are met. It's after that that all bets are off.

[(Anonymous)]

The script calls that line defiance, not anger.

The only reason the Jedi Council gives for refusing to allow Anakin to be trained is his age. Their decision would have probably had more weight with the famously defiant Qui-Gon if they had had more justifications.

Yoda does sense fear in Anakin, true, but this isn't an emotion that he himself is immune to. When Yoda tries one last time to stop Anakin becoming a padawan, he voices his own fear about the boy.

I'm not sure you have Anakin's TPM personality correct, either. When Anakin (initially) was denied permission to be trained, he didn't fly off the handle or sulk. He went to Qui-Gon and said that he didn't want to be a problem for him.