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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-29 08:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3557 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3557 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't see the show version of the Red Wedding, but I found it pretty devastating in the books. I think it was the growing sense of inevitability that made it so dreadful, along with the uncertainty of how it would play out. Those nuances are hard to capture on screen I imagine.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, the book version was pretty heartbreaking, though it may be that you got to see a main character go insane from said character's POV.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-30 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Which character went insane? (spoil me idc)

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Catelyn. She starts laughing and tearing at her throat.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure it was her face she scratched up.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-30 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Poor bb </3 was that after Robb died?
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[personal profile] seashadows 2016-10-01 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, right after.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I found the book to be more moving because you had so much more time spent with the characters, inside their heads and getting to know them as characters. The show doesn't do that quite as well, IMO.
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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2016-09-30 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think that the Red Wedding is one, of very few, pieces from ASOIAF that is actually better in the books--although I think it is VERY well done nonetheless in the series. But I think the book version is more...haunting, more claustrophobic, more *awful.* The filmed version was powerful because--well, that opening sally, poor Talisa being stabbed in the womb. And everything else.--it was filmed brilliantly. But then when I read the book version, it was somehow even worse. The whole thing is from Catelyn's POV and it's all hot and crowded and claustrophobic and kind of miserable. And throughout the whole thing, the music sucks. And then when the massacre starts, you realize--the music sucks because they're not musicians. They're killers.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's that odd that you've found it underwhelming, considering that you have been hyped about it. Part of the brutality of the Red Wedding is just how unexpected it feels, both in the book and the show, as surely they're not about to kill off several principal characters all at once, but then they did. Same goes for the rest of the show. People go on and on about how gritty it is and how everyone can die at any time, so you're really just expecting it to happen.

I personally find the Red Wedding worse in the book though, even knowing what's coming, as the reader sees it from Cat's POV. Also, the show has some added shock value things that feel a bit cheap (Talisa and the baby).

[personal profile] plushulala 2016-09-30 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I heard this was the most violent show on television. Can anyone tell me if it's more violent that Oz or the last season of Sons of Anarchy?

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Certain parts were, but the violence is more showy and less continuous and grim than Oz or Sons of Anarchy. I can watch GoT okay but I had to look away from Oz a lot.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
The thing that was so effective about that scene for people who only watched the show was that the Red Wedding was a complete shock. Unless you sought out the info, book readers were really good about not spoiling this particular plot twist.

Knowing about it beforehand would probably lessen its shock value and (if you cared about those who died) just increase your dread.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Good about not spoiling?

"Just wait for the RED WEDDING"
"It'll shock you! You'll never see it coming"
"I can't tell you what it is, but it's definitely a huge twist"
*stares intently at friend while watching the scene*

If the book readers were good about not spoiling the plot twist, then none of us would have heard of the phrase "red wedding" until after the episode.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
...I'm sorry you have shitty friends?
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[personal profile] ibbity 2016-09-30 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't really the violence in itself that was the shocking part (though the show version where Talisa got stabbed in the fetus was pretty awful.) The shocking part was in the emotional impact, because it built up a lot of emotional investment for Robb and Catelyn and their camp and then BAM betrayal and murder all around.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
The show in general is underwhelming garbage.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ugly anon has a new hobby everyone!

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Disliking GoT = being ugly anon? What kind of fucked up logic????

(Anonymous) 2016-09-30 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
You could always try the S2 finale of Hannibal. It was pretty gut wrenching and hit me in feels more than the RW ever did. Of course, it loses all impact if you just, like, watch it on Youtube or something, without the season backstory before it. I think the reason it's so horrible is, well, the horror, but also the fact that it all could have been avoided. And yet at the same time, it couldn't have.