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Re: Who are the worst people...

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I think everyone should vote for whoever they think is the best choice and leave everyone else alone to do the same.

This seems like a bizarre approach to politics. Politics is a basically public thing. The idea that politics should be a public thing is one of the distinctive features of a liberal democracy. Politics benefits from being discussed openly, it should be discussed openly, it's right that it's discussed openly and that we convince each other and try and disagree. I can't agree with this and I'm really not sure where the idea comes from.

I don't think the president has that much power.

I guess that's relative - it depends on how much you think "that much" is - but the president has a lot of power. He has the power to appoint justices to the Supreme Court, which has been talked to death. He has the power of the veto, which means that he's a necessary part of the legislative process. He has the power to make executive appointments and issue executive orders, which has taken on a huge significance over the last 75 years or so in terms of setting a regulatory agenda. And of course he's the commander in chief of the military. And that's before getting into the bully pulpit and the political power he wields.

So we're talking about someone who has the power to influence legislation; to appoint the people who run the regulatory agencies and set their policy; to make a lot of appointments in the judiciary; and to run the military. That's a lot of power to hand over to someone if you don't think they're good at exercising it.

I agree with some of his positions. And this country has swung so far left in the past 4 years that it's almost right. More than anything, I'm voting for balance.

Yeah, I mean, I know you said this wasn't going to make sense, but: this doesn't make sense. It's not a pendulum that you can swing back and forth and have a little of this, a little of that. It's particularly not, in a case like this one, where all of the candidates are so... marked in their personalities and their plans.

It's okay if Obama and Clinton are too far to the left for you. I mean, I don't agree with that position myself, but that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. If you think that Trump's policies are closer to your preferences (and you're not worried about his ability to carry them out), that's maybe the best possible reason to vote for him. I think those policies are enormously bad, but that's not, you know, the subject matter of this particular argument.

But the idea that there's some kind of inertia of politics that Trump is going to steer back to the right seems wrong to me. What Trump is going to do is, he's going to do Trump things. In the same way that Clinton is going to do Clinton things. He's going to implement Trump policies and he's going to respond to crises and issues with Trump responses. If you don't want those policies and responses, you shouldn't vote for Trump. It's not as though Trump is going to pass a healthcare bill, and then somehow it's going to be averaged out against Obamacare and hey presto we'll have some kind of "balanced" health care bill. If Trump passes a health care bill, it'll be a Trump healthcare bill.

I realize that none of these reasons are going to be good enough for you, but maybe you can just concede that people DO have their own reasons for voting as they do, even when they are completely illogical to you?

Of course everyone has reasons for whatever they do. But the fact that someone cites something as a reason does not, in and of itself, entitle that reason to respect. There's still a degree of scrutiny to those reasons and those opinions, as part of the political process of making democracy happen.