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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-03 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3561 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-10-04 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
The average Scottish person has no idea how historically inaccurate it is. It's lauded as a film of Scottish independence from the UK.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-04 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I think that even if you're aware that the film is not historically accurate, I don't know that that would damp down the 'ideal' of Scottish independence from the UK that the film may put forward. Most films are very much about inspiring emotion in people, and use love, relationships, patriotism, etc. in their stories for that reason.

It's not historically accurate but it is good film-making.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-04 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. Patriotism and nationalism emerging from lies, misinformation, and a lack of basic understanding of history. Nothing new here - as long as you "feel" it, who cares if it's true.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-04 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That is just a lie for a start, if for no other reason than Unionist campaigners have rammed it down our throats that Braveheart is historically inaccurate, usually in a very patronising and aggressive way too. Of course it would help if Scottish Schools taught more Scottish history, Scottish school children still know more about the Plantagenets and Tudors than they do of Kenneth MacAlpin or the Scottish Wars of Independence. You cannot bitch about the (alleged) lack of knowledge at the same time the Unionist parties are deliberately encouraging a lack of knowledge about Scottish history, you cannot have it both ways.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-04 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Pff, what a bunch of bollocks, we barely spent a second of time on English history at my academy in North East Scotland, besides the industrial revolution. For the first two years it was all Jacobite Rebellion this and '45 that and a bunch of vague waffle about clans, totally isolated of any actual historical context that really explained why these rebellions happened. I dropped that subject as soon as I could to concentrate on geography, and thank goodness.

Granted, this was 20 years ago now, but I never heard a whisper of Tudors or Plantagenets or pretty much any specifically English history. Almost everything I know of British history comes from documentaries (thankyou very much BBC and Channel 4!).

Don't blame this stuff on Ebil Unionists, puhleeeze. I believe Scottish local councils once set their own curricula, and now it's the Scottish Parliament's Curriculum for Excellence - blame them and not horrible 'Wasteminster'.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2016-10-08 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You got taught about Plantagenet and Tutors? Where? Scotland has some fascinating history but I vividly remember being bored to tears over farming techniques in the 1700s. Thankfully there was enough war stuff to get me to cling on until the interesting stuff appeared. The unionist parties don't control the education system and have not for a long time. We don't learn about Kenneth MacAlpin but I'm pretty sure the English are not so clued up on old King Egbert of Wessex either.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2016-10-08 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Um....we are very aware of how inaccurate it is? Schools made sure to counter the film with education to make sure of that. Most react to the idea of it, as is said. In that time period England did attempt to take control of Scotland and the Scots did engage in battles and wars to hold on to their independence. The fact that England's relationship with Scotland was never the same as the one Wales had is a great sense of pride and is why we were able to preserve our own systems of education and law before we had a separate parliament restored in the 1990s. Even those against Scotland being independent today have pride in those things. Which neds did you find to talk to? o.O